Posted on Jan 28, 2014
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When I joined the Army we Specialist 4-6 (SP7 had just been discontinued). It provided those Soldiers who had technical expertise and experience the opportunity to progress and earn more pay. However they typically were not "green tab" leaders and were subordinate in rank to a "sergeant" of the same pay grade (SSG & SP6). I've often thought over the years that the Army deleted a program that brought added value to the organization by discontinuing these ranks, as not all Soldiers are not going to be good leaders but should have the opportunity to progress based on their occupational expertise.

Should the Army bring these ranks back?
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SSG Norbert Johnson
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I support the return of the Specialist Ranks. Why? because the intent of the rank was based to reward personnel with higher degrees of experience and technical knowledge within the new rank as they specialized in a specific MOS. I am a little prejudiced in my view because I was promoted from PFC to SP5 because I had Civilian acquired skills and training that exceed the skill level of both the SP4 and CPL level, but did not have the leadership training and Soldier Management Experience that was required for SGT-E5. Therefore, I believe the Specialist Rank is an appropriate career field designation. In Civilian life, I was paid more than my supervisors specifically because I had a skill set that exceeded the mandates of the job and as such could incorporate two parallel jobs into one. Essentially, the Specialist Rank was similar to an incorporation of 2 closely related MOS/s or additional duties. Therefore there is an equivalence to the CORE DUTIES but a split from the leadership role. In 1985 I was laterally promoted to SGT-E5 and I requested NCO school so I could be promoted to E6. The reason I was Laterally promoted to SGT instead to SSG was specific to a "Lack of Leadership Training and Experience." However, I received my recommendation for promotion to SP6 just 2 weeks prior to the removal of the SP5 and SP6 designations. So again, I have a prejudiced view on the removal in the first place because I was within one credit of my Masters Degree which was supportive of my Primary MOS of 91G Behavioral Science Specialist; and I was too old for OCS. So YES, Bring back the Specialist Ranks.
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SFC Joseph Masterson
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Absolutely!
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SPC Trina Cox
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Being a SPC I agree
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Sgt John William
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Maybe I'm the only one that can see how this relates ~~~ When my buddy died I became the father figure to his 3 sons. The youngest saw the Army recruiter and was disappointed. When I talked to him and asked why was told "because he is somewhat of a geek and nerd. He will not fit in todays Army". He enlisted in the Marines. Fast forward ~~ he was put into aviation electronics. He has deployed and is no longer a geek but still a bit of a nerd, a nerd gunny. At least one more re-enlistment to complete 22 years. All because he enjoys what he does as a Marine even though Boeing has offered him a 6 figure salary to leave. That opportunity has been on the table a long time.
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SGT Michael Schmiesing
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Only if they will never be a leader.
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LCpl William Malicoat
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The Specialist ranks allow a soldier to remain in their MOS rather than move into administration. For example, when a Marine reaches E-8 or E-9 he/she is either a 1st Sgt or a Master Sgt (E-8), Master Gunnery Sgt or Sgt Maj (E-9). 1st Sgt is administrative while a MSgt remains in his/her designated MOS. Sgt Maj is administrative and Master Gunnery Sgt remains in his/her designated MOS. However, MSgt and MGySgt are considered NCO's and can command troops if needed unlike the Army's Specialist ranks who are not considered NCO's. I grew up as an Army brat and remember when the Specialist ranks went from E-4 to E-9. The Army eliminated Spec 8 and Spec 9 almost immediately.
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CPL Jonathan Roberts
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In other words a specialist e-4 should not be writing Council statements for another specialist e-4. E5 should be writing the counseling statements for all his subordinates. And a junior specialist recently promoted can't write a counseling statement for a senior specialist who has more time in grade than he does I was in the unit that tried doing that crap. Didn't work with me not being a military brat and all and know the whole entire game knows how it works it almost came down to a congressional investigation, my dad a retired first sergeant wanted to know what was going on with the unit I was in and my uncle a retired sergeant major and a brother-in-law who was a major should be on his way to a lieutenant colonel by now the unit I was with wanted to pick and choose what Army regulations they wanted to go by. How I see it you can't pick and choose if you going to go by the regulation you go by the whole entire regulation front to cover you don't pick and choose to appease your benefits
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CPL Jonathan Roberts
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No. It just add more confusion, had some issues in units , where at the time I was the ranking E-4 spc, promotable sometime referred to as E4p eligible for the next higher rank grade Sergeant E-5. I stayed back on rear detachment because of a previous deployment I was having surgery done I couldn't deploy with my second unit one makes their specialist E4 rank down in that appointment comes back as Corporal and starts yelling in my face I cuss his ass out
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CPL Jonathan Roberts
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He was a PFC while I was still in before or two term Soldier about to go into a third term then I'm Med boarded out. As corporal. It goes time in service time-in-grade I had wait I'm more time in service and time in grade than the other guy.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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Add to that why not bring back the "T" technical Sergeant, and drop Specialist grades forever?
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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Only on the condition that all Specialist grades have no possible configuration for automatic promotion.
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