Posted on Jan 28, 2014
Should the Army bring back the Specialist titles?
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When I joined the Army we Specialist 4-6 (SP7 had just been discontinued). It provided those Soldiers who had technical expertise and experience the opportunity to progress and earn more pay. However they typically were not "green tab" leaders and were subordinate in rank to a "sergeant" of the same pay grade (SSG & SP6). I've often thought over the years that the Army deleted a program that brought added value to the organization by discontinuing these ranks, as not all Soldiers are not going to be good leaders but should have the opportunity to progress based on their occupational expertise.
Should the Army bring these ranks back?
Should the Army bring these ranks back?
Posted 12 y ago
Responses: 708
Hell no! Matter of fact get rid of Spec 4's. Or make a special pay grade of E4 1/4
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Yes. Keep all support personnel as Specialist and Combat Arms as hard stripes. Leadership vs. Specialized training.
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If they want to keep the experts then YES. I had a SP5 that was an excelent Crypto Repairman and he did not want to be a SSG and refused to be sent to a promotion board, the Army mustered him out. What a shame. Back in 1961 I met a SP9, NM National Guard and he was with the General. They flew in to Fort Bliss.
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I really hated being a SPC 4. It was a shock going from a hard stripe to a SPC. I felt like middle management with no pull. I still acted like a hard striper tho. So, when I was promoted to Sgt, it was a relieve
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I also agree. Not every person wants to be CSM of the Army or Chief of Staff but their should be a way they can continue to advance up the pay scale. That is part of what the warrant program is for. Specialist was for Enlisted people to be used so that a clerk, mechanic, or such person could make more money as their knowledge of their subject and skill improved
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Yes as not all people will make decent leaders either cause they do not have the ability or do not want to be a leader. Cause not everyone can be made into a leader. But they are very good at their job. someone made a comment that leadership is learned and I disagree. I believe u have it in to to Stand up in front of people and give talks, direction or even organization. All u have to do is look at a sports team say the Bulls with Jordan and without Scotty didn't have the leadership to keep what Jordan had going. 1st off Jordan was the hardest worker on the team so that took a lot of pressure off the coach cause his best player was not slaking off and Scotty was not the best player when he was gone. Some people are leaders some can be taught to lead in a round about way and some cannot. I remember being on a run in Basic and we went past to people that were trying to remember how to do the last steps of putting their weapon back together prior to calling the DI over to inspect it. And they were almost crying. I defy anyone that those people would make leaders. they have the want to but not the ablility.
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I agree, that they should have been kept. Some folks are great at their jobs but are not leaders. All too often I saw folks get leadership roles that they could not handle, but with up or out we put people in positions that did more harm than good.
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