Posted on May 7, 2016
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As a Recruiter I have had insight on the Army Branding, and marketing Team for USAREC. We are getting beat by the Marines when it comes to image. The patches make civilians ask what do you do in the Army, on the flip side when a civilian sees a Marine no questions needed to be asked, whats your thoughts
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Are our implying that Marines don’t have an MOS? You still have to ask them what they do.
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SGT Michael McGiboney
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This right here is straight from the good idea fairy. You have no understanding, virtually none, of what goes through the mind of a young male looking to get into the military. These various patches are the esoteric symbols of warriorhood to a young preteen and teenage boy. To the men that have worn and wear these patches, they are symbols of pride, unit culture and history.
It is also apparent you failed to read the Napoleon’s and Frederick the Great’s musings on the extremely important unit identity and esprit de corps.
Imagine the look someone would have gotten if you’d stood up in front of a council of Cheyenne or Lakota Sioux warriors and suggested that all the warrior societies gets rid of their unique regalia: Dog soldiers get rid of your red paint and spiked sweet gum ball like headdress, Elkhorn soldiers get rid of your yellow paint and lances hooked on one end, Fox soldiers get rid of your red bows and fox pelt, Crazy Dogs get rid of your hail and lightning paint and antelope horns, and let’s all wear the same thing.
Have you ever looked at a detailed order of battle from the Napoleonic wars? Have you ever looked at all the regimental flags that soldiers on both sides created for themselves during the American Civil War?
The Marines benefit from a media created mythology that began in World War I with Belleau Wood, while the heroic actions of a small motorized machine gun element of the 3rd ID keeping the entire front from collapsing was a footnote in the newspapers in comparison.
The unit diversity on the shoulders of army uniforms is an advantage, as a recruiter you should hope that the Marines don’t start copying us.
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SPC Matt R
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I think some of the comments here fall in line with mine...in that the unit patches are a very big deal in the Army. Walking through the PX or on post, one is always looking at soldiers patches. Patches represent your dedication to a specific job, unit, etc. The patches signify brotherhood/sisterhood in arms when you see someone with the patch you also wore or still wear. Then there's the history, and we just can't deny how big that history is for certain units, like The Big Red 1, 82nd Airborne or the 101st. Other tank batallions, Field Artillery, Infantry, and the list goes on and on. We are not being beat in this area by any other service whatsoever, and in fact we are decades ahead and should protect the history of the patch and its meaning for every service member within the US Army.
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MAJ Bob Firth
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I will give up my unit patches when they pry them from my cold, dead hands.
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SSG Grant Hansen
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NO!!!!!

Idiots look at Marines and think they're all 0300 infantry, but in reality a LOT of them are admin, supply, and other REMFs.

The patches !ay confuse non-military types, but to those in the Army, they make a lot of sense.

Not to mention, when I was sent to Iraq I was assigned to the 1st Marine Division and was subsequently authorized to wear a 1sr Mar Div patch.You would not believe the number of Marines that told me they wished they could have worn one just like it.
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SSG Roland Shelton
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No, the Army has a rich history involving many units of distinction. While they are all part of the Army, they need to retain their individual contributions. I don't see
the need forl the public recognition. While I mean my Marine brothers and sisters no ill, they are Marines, we are Soldiers.
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CPL Chris Palmberg
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Unless you're in the business of selling something where brand or origin is immaterial, such as gasoline, questions are a good thing. How much research did you do before choosing your current POV? Your current residence? Did you ask questions?
By the same token, the individualized facets of a soldier's uniform present a myriad of reasons for a contact to ask questions. Most civilians don't know the difference between a CAB, and jump wings. They will ask repetitive, frequently irritating questions about your uniform, etc. Embrace the Suck. It is human nature to ask questions as a means of reaching a decision. When they stop, it means their decision has been made.
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SFC James Donald
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Honestly one of the dumbest questions I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading. Why in the hell would you want to get rid of the patches worn on the US ARMY (not US Marines) uniform? We’re not getting beat by any service in that aspect. I spent 23 years in the US Army/Kansas Army National Guard and I had way more positive comments and interactions because of the patches.
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CPL Rick Lindholm
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Spoken like a slick sleeved POG
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SFC John Tolley
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Army patches signify a group within a much larger group. Marines are excellent at what they do. Soldiers are also, over a much wider range of Tasks.
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