Posted on May 7, 2016
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As a Recruiter I have had insight on the Army Branding, and marketing Team for USAREC. We are getting beat by the Marines when it comes to image. The patches make civilians ask what do you do in the Army, on the flip side when a civilian sees a Marine no questions needed to be asked, whats your thoughts
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SFC Michael Arabian
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I’m proud of the time I served in the Army and most of the units I was assigned to. If someone wants to dress like a Marine and do what the public thinks the Marines do, than maybe they should join the Marines. Stop changing the way the Military does things just because it hurt someone feelings
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Makes no sense. If a civilian asks you what you do, tell them you’re a a Soldier. BOOM! Want to expand on the patch? Learn how they came to be. 7th ID, not as prevalent today, we called the patch “the crushed beer can”. Associated with black widow spiders in some unit symbols. The patch developed by making a 7, then placing an inverted 7 over the original-hourglass. All patches have their own meaning. God Bless the Marines, I love them, but we’re Soldiers and we don’t need to be Marines.
Sgt Peter Schlesiona
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I’ll offer the same comment I made to a similar question recently.....the Army’s devotion to unit patches is part of what makes the Army “unit-centric”. My experience with soldiers (mostly veterans) is that they think of unit first. If they served in multiple units, the “Army” may be a distant 3rd or 4th. To Marines, the Corps comes first. Units are important, but secondary to that. If the Army is satisfied with bring unit-centric, all well and good. But it won’t change until unit patches are no longer worn on uniforms (IMHO).
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SGT Team Chief
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Funny, even my marine baddies are asked what the did while in. I don’t see any reason to change anything
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SFC William Ewing
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Should be EGA not STA
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SFC William Ewing
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Army patches are our ST A
If anything the Marines should being back theirs
It really dressed up their uniforms then.

My understanding is the patches were done away with because people who had no combat patchs wanted to look like everyone else.
Army tried to take the combat patches seat back in the late eighties, was killed by Desert Storm.

At one time there were only two combat patches in the senior NCO the SGM and myself
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SFC David Fullmer
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Why can’t Army leadership give up its envy of the Marine Corps. We will never have better uniforms even after changing every 3-5 years. “Once a Marine always a Marine” will always be more believable than “Soldier for life”. The Army will never be a better Marine Corps than the Marine Corps. The Army only has to be the best land force there is. If it’s leadership could focus on this, everything will fall into place.
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SFC Retention and Transition NCO (USAR)
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Aw. Hell no. We earned it. It is a part of our heraldry. We are not the Marines. We have our own history and traditions. If you as a recruoter have a hard time making mission, maybe it is time to look into something else to overcome your objections. But taking away history and heraldry is not the answer.
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Al Reynolds
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If I remember correctly we only had the one shoulder patch in the Navy.... It was the name of your ship so the Shore Patrol knew what stack to throw you into when you were too drunk to know who you were or where you belonged.... We didn't need no stupid patches... We were sailors...
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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No. I take pride in my unit. I love my patch.
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