Posted on May 7, 2016
Should the Army do away with Patches and go to one universal Symbol like the Marines EGA?
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As a Recruiter I have had insight on the Army Branding, and marketing Team for USAREC. We are getting beat by the Marines when it comes to image. The patches make civilians ask what do you do in the Army, on the flip side when a civilian sees a Marine no questions needed to be asked, whats your thoughts
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SSG. To respectfully reply to your question many people mentioned below that we both share our difference as far as Es Sprit De Corp goes. Why do you value a civilians opinion when you have earned your patches with your blood sweat and tears. Break it down Barney style for them. Its like an Indian Tribe. we all have different markings for what tribes we are in and that's why there are different patches. just an idea. As a Marine i guess we won when it came to the Dress Blues... Sorry,but you guys have your own history and we have ours. Again civilians DON'T need to know the story behind your guys's patches,they need to earn it and a learn it and be indoctrinated to understand that thousands of soldiers died wearing that patch. Just like my Eagle Globe and Anchor. I earned it, I learned of all the Marines who died wearing it. To civilians they think "oh hey that's what Marines wear."
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During 4 plus years of active Army service I learned that one time proven standing order in the Military was this.
When you have one you HAVE to draw another one. When you have two, you HAVE to turn one in.
This order covered any situation imaginable.
To be promotable each new lender had to figure out the present situation and respond accordingly. His/her efficiency rating and next promotion was based on how well or not the draw or turn in was carried out during his/her tour.
This patch controversy stinks of familiarity. Do we have one patch policy or two?
Personally, I say Army keep the patches and history policy, and let the Marine Corps keep theirs.
When you have one you HAVE to draw another one. When you have two, you HAVE to turn one in.
This order covered any situation imaginable.
To be promotable each new lender had to figure out the present situation and respond accordingly. His/her efficiency rating and next promotion was based on how well or not the draw or turn in was carried out during his/her tour.
This patch controversy stinks of familiarity. Do we have one patch policy or two?
Personally, I say Army keep the patches and history policy, and let the Marine Corps keep theirs.
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The civilianization of the Army has taken away so many things that give a give a sense of pride & belonging to something special. The Marines have stayed true to their history & traditions, to wit: regardless of uniform they look good. Army needs to go back the brown WW2 uniforms but keep the dress blues
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Keep the Patches! It's tradition! Solider take pride in the Division they serve I. I proudly wore the 8th ID patch and the ,194th Armor Brig patch.
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You get beat because we are Marines. It has nothing to do with the Eagle Globe and Anchor. However, the unit patches are unnecessary and create divisions within the Army. A Marine will never identify with their particular Wing or Division; we are all Marines. Half the Army cares more about the unit patch than the US Army on their chest.
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The army is different from us. (Devildogs). In the Marine Corps, the officers know each other by name or reputation within a few years. Including the Reserves, we only field four Divisions. The Army is much larger. There are certain units that even Marines respect (like the 82nd Airborne, 75th Ranger Regt. The Green beenies), because they do a similar mission and we share a warriors mindset. Leave the Army's traditions alone. As an aside, I think that the Army's return to the pink and green uniform is classy. Best uniform y'all ever had...
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My thoughts on this matter even though reading it two years later... Go to a simple Regimental Patch, Crest, Brass & US Army Disc and call it good! Covers all uniforms... For headgear, juniors, nothing, NCOs wear subdued at all times, Officers in the field - while in garrison, regular. It kills some of the tradition of the individual units, but does provide for a cost savings measure when it comes to articles of purchase bearing on the times of expenditures. Just one way to save money. That said, would lose our great army tradition of unity and I would not be fond of losing the individualism many of us are so fondly used to with regards to unit cohesion, bonding, jabbing, customary traditions of screwing with fellow units! Catch-22, some good, some bad, depends on the approach and how you look at the matter - cost savings, tradition, soldier’s morale, etc., a few things to consider when a decision to take action!
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No, unit pride has always been the cornerstone of the military. The Marines are small a service & want being a Marine to be “the unit”. It’s bad enough that everyone gets a special badge now.
At one time if you saw a badge, above someone’s pocket, you knew it was something special. (Pilot, EOD, Airborne etc). Now it’s lost it’s meaning.
At one time if you saw a badge, above someone’s pocket, you knew it was something special. (Pilot, EOD, Airborne etc). Now it’s lost it’s meaning.
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If you are a recruiter and you are asking this question, you need to find another position. The questions about the unit patches should be the opening for a dialogue a nd a way to show the rich history of the US Army.
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