Posted on May 10, 2015
Should the DoD really pay the NFL for honoring troops?
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I'm not one that needs nor wants recognition for my service. I actually prefer to keep my service private within my own circle of family and friends.
I have also served as a recruiter for the Army, so I can appreciate the advertising point of view. This being said, if a show of appreciation for service members is paid for by their own organization instead of its hosts, the NFL, which is a multi billion dollar industry, it lacks sincerity, does it not?
I do however support the DoD providing fly overs by the Air Force. In my opinion, this is a display of overall protection from our military while we enjoy events that our countrymen have enjoyed for generations.
Do you think that the NFL should pay for these bills during the events (minus fly overs), or is it necessary for the DoD to pay for them in order to display our military for any particular reason....?
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/5/8/8573341/national-guard-paying-nfl-teams-jets
I have also served as a recruiter for the Army, so I can appreciate the advertising point of view. This being said, if a show of appreciation for service members is paid for by their own organization instead of its hosts, the NFL, which is a multi billion dollar industry, it lacks sincerity, does it not?
I do however support the DoD providing fly overs by the Air Force. In my opinion, this is a display of overall protection from our military while we enjoy events that our countrymen have enjoyed for generations.
Do you think that the NFL should pay for these bills during the events (minus fly overs), or is it necessary for the DoD to pay for them in order to display our military for any particular reason....?
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/5/8/8573341/national-guard-paying-nfl-teams-jets
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It's just an organization advertising, no different than anyone else paying for airtime...
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Capt Brandon Charters
As much as the report first upset me, I do see it from this perspective as well.
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Despite the titles of this events, its about promoting and marketing the military as SFC (Join to see) pointed out. As we said in recruiting lingo, we have to keep fueling the funnel to keep up our numbers.
Sponsoring these events reaches a broad audience in a short period of time and leaves lasting memories of the Armed Forces. The money we spend for these is well spent. Would i prefer the NFL or NCAA do these for free, oh course. HOWEVER, there is a business side of the DOD, and advertising/ marketing expenses is just part of the business
Sponsoring these events reaches a broad audience in a short period of time and leaves lasting memories of the Armed Forces. The money we spend for these is well spent. Would i prefer the NFL or NCAA do these for free, oh course. HOWEVER, there is a business side of the DOD, and advertising/ marketing expenses is just part of the business
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SFC (Join to see)
I understand what you're saying SFC Jackson. Here's where I have the heartache. NGB spent what? $49,000,000 for a NASCAR sponship that didn't produce. NGB came up short last year almost $100,000,000. Trickle effect for this year is we ( the State I'm in) only got 40% of what we actually needed for funding for this FY. They want us to keep OPTEMPO and training up to par, BUT have cut us so deep and not allowing us to take Soldiers to Annual Training because they either A. Already did a 15 day school this year or B. Came back to us from AIT after 1 Oct and will have a good year (50 points min)
I've been to numerous AA/AAA baseball games and College games at NO cost to military.
Someone definitely has their priorities jacked up.
I've been to numerous AA/AAA baseball games and College games at NO cost to military.
Someone definitely has their priorities jacked up.
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1LT Timothy Kneisel
The issue is less about money being spent to advertise for recruitment, and more about the deceptive nature of paying someone to honor individual military members. If the NFL is honoring someone, they should not be compensated for it. If the DoD is honoring someone at an event then they should pay, but then the NFL doesn't get to say they are doing the honoring.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
1LT Timothy Kneisel, i agree with about deceptive practices. That being said, i have different theory about this. The NFL is about money, and if DoD is cutting the checks for these events.,Then they have some leverage as to how the Armed Forces is represented. Calling it military appeciation may be for benefit of DoD allowing them to different pots of funding.
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These missions are included in the annual operating budget of all branches of the military and they are used as training are they not?. It's chalked up as a training mission, pilots are getting their training, there's no extra money being spent that I can see. If budgets start getting tight again, less flying, less ships on the sea, there will be a hold on military school and training, etc etc etc.
Now, can we really call it "training"?? It's a stretch isn't? Requesting a flyover is made on DoD Form 2535, so according to Form 2535, flyovers are supposed to be restricted to aviation-related events or events taking place in relation to "patriotic holidays" such as Armed Forces Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, POW/MIA Recognition Day and Veterans Day. So technically, flyovers are not supposed to occur at sports events.
Now, can we really call it "training"?? It's a stretch isn't? Requesting a flyover is made on DoD Form 2535, so according to Form 2535, flyovers are supposed to be restricted to aviation-related events or events taking place in relation to "patriotic holidays" such as Armed Forces Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, POW/MIA Recognition Day and Veterans Day. So technically, flyovers are not supposed to occur at sports events.
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I understand the outrage. On some level it cheapens the message and our service. But, DOD spends money on advertising for recruiting. Why not at sporting events? There are probably lots of kids that think it's cool and might want to signup. Come to think about, every time they ask veterans and active duty in the audience to stand up, it's part of a recruiting effort. What better way than to show kids that the average guy or gal, maybe sitting next to them, was in the service? I just realized that I'm participating in a big commercial every time I stand up at a sporting event. Good. It was a great experience. And if someone other than me is getting paid for it, no different than most things in life. It doesn't diminish my life or experiences one bit.
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Salute our heroes to my knowledge is a nonprofit organization so if sporting events is charging the military that is wrong in my opinion it should be something they donated. Now if they are discounted tickets then the money should be coming from Salute our heroes fund raisers and they should all ready know the amount they can pay and a the number of tickets they can afford.
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