Should the EIB/EFMB be changed to become a true qualification?

If you do that then you would have to do it with other "awards", that require training....like airborne, air assault, pathfinder. Then the problem you would run into is that every EIB holder has to "re certify" then who is "re certifying" them? The number of EIB candidates is already hard to handle because of the small number of EIB holders. I have an EIB and I can tell you it is TOUGH to get, some places don't conduct EIB testing regularly so that would be another issue.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. That commander for training needs to follow the army regs. Manual. Those badges were earned. So I guess people will have to go and do another combat jump or be in another combat situation to keep those badges and patches as well. Morons...

no.
for servicemen who change MOSs (lots of Nat'l Guard and Reserve) that pride of accomplishment of earlier service, when you have that badge, not just EIB/EFMB, but Jump Wings, Air Assault, Submariner, Ranger Tab, and other badges to earn when you're young and dumb.
When you're old and fat and broken down, that pride adds to all of the service.
The clerk/typist with an EIB, the cook (I've seen a couple) that you'ld question how they made tape with Jump Wings and Ranger Tab, and me, my knees and ankles don't like me for the time that I spent jumping out of airplanes as a band-aid pusher.
A lot of you see that badge with some assumption of the soldier active in that branch - I see it more on someone who used to be in that branch and has the pride of being an expert in a brach that they are no longer in.

Yes I agree that it should be a true qualification.

Combat medics always looked at the EFMB as a pog badge.. since they usually do EIB and EFMB at the same time.. Combat medics are covering their guys for EIB. Never had the opportunity.

After reading some of the remarks on this subject; Why not just bring back Pro Pay, in conjunction with your desire to be all inclusive, etc.? If you can not understand what I am saying, I will be just an old fuddy duddy and say STFU.

Yes because skills diminish.

If they are going to remain MOS specific badges, then yes. Tankers can't continue to wear their boots if their qualifications are out of date. The same should apply.

I remember when I got my EFMB. A. A CSM with the CMB told us the day we (14 of 68 candidates) got our badges that a lot of the soldiers who got the CMB got theirs the easy way, because "all they did was get shot at and a lot of them wouldn't pass the test if they took it." I remembered feeling uneasy, thinking I guess he would know, but it seemed a little disrespectful of those guys. He didn't say if that included him. He did tell us to go back to our units and train the other guys to be good enough to earn it, even if they didn't take the test. I'm not sure public speaking was his strong suit, but I got his meaning. And no, if your not a grunt or a medic you shouldn't get the badge and having won it it's yours. You have nothing to prove by taking it every year. It's about your mind not your eye. You may need glasses next year and not be able to hit all the targets at the range. But your not going to loose your ability to make the right decisions just because you're wearing new glasses. That's what the EFMB and EIB are about. Knowing what to do and doing it the way it's supposed to be done to an expert degree. I can drive a truck and pass a test about driving trucks but it doesn't make me an expert, because I'm not a truck driver.

It cost a time of money to set a BN wide EIB program, and takes roughly 2 weeks training for a 3-4 day course. Adding in the necessary qualifications, most which are required semi-annually or annually. (Wpns, NBC, PT. etc.)