Posted on Dec 1, 2015
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I believe Infantry and Operators should be treated with a higher regard in the military.

Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.

The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.

This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
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I'm very much disappointed with the "entitlement mentality" displayed in the original post. The days of the Spartans fighting their enemies for glorious accolades is long past. The phrase "No one wants to go to war and fight, but someone needs to know how" comes to mind. If you choose to serve, your reasons why are your own business. If you think that because you chose to join as an Infantryman or an "operator" because those classifications will set you apart from those of us who are not, then you are a fool on a fool's errand. Obviously, during the time I entered the service, jobs for women were not as abundant as they are now. Nevertheless, we are all taught basics like marksmanship and land nav for a reason. As military professionals, it is our privilege to serve and that does not include special privileges. Good luck with that attitude. I hope you don't get anyone killed with it.
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Wow...So like because I didn't spend 6 months practicing CQB before I went to Afghanistan it negates all the combat that came to visit me? That's got to be the most myopic, asinine, draconian and just bass-ackward reasoning I have EVER heard.

I suppose in your world only infantry and SF go into harms way and pull triggers. I must have missed when we time-warped back to 1945. I don't even know where to start with this one...
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Well... wtf do you want?

National Infantry Day? With full parades, gold sticker awarding and a pot luck thrown by the POGs?

How about Fellatio Fridays on post? where everyone lines up to have the "honor" of slobbing an 11B? (Including NCOs and officers, of course).

Wait, I got it. A mandatory brief, where we are forced to learn how the infantry is better, and how we should work extra hard for them. Mandatory briefs are the answer for everything.
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CW3 Jim Norris
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As an one time 11C I think that every solider - just like every Marine should have an 11 secondary that they qualify in FIRST, then become the intel analyst or whatever you're going to do and you should have to maintain some sort of certification in that 11 series MOS.

Respect - well now there's a different kettle of fish completely. An E-7 automatically brings a lot of credence into the room just with those stripes. It has been my experience that the level of respect from his/her peers from that point on is directly related to what comes out of their mouths and the manner in which they conduct themselves. Back in the day, as they say, I could tell within 5 minutes if an NCO and I where going to work well together - the way they carried themselves, how they treated others (not me) in the group - and if they followed my Mom's advice - you've got one mouth and two ears, use them in that exact proportion.....
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CPT Quentin von Éfáns-Taráfdar
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That was good motherly advice!
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All the pathetic butthurt and "feelings" coming from the pogs and butt kissers is funny. I agree that Infantry and spec ops are the baddest hardest dudes in the military. And no pogs don't push themselves like grunts go not even close, stop lying to yourself
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SGT Romeo Reyes
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Pfff.... Cav is gay.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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SGT (Join to see) - You're not a Marine, so you ain't a real soldier either! What do you think of that?
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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Not hurting my feelings, because they removed mine in boot camp. That's why you don't see Marines here making lots of whiny posts about whether they should get to wear some rope or shiny thing on their jacket. We know who we are.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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LCpl Jesse Foust - Actually, a Maine officer ordered a bayonet charge in Iraq, and it worked! The enemy was defending a bridge for hours. Running low on ammo, the platoon leader decided to use the terror of having a foot of steel shoved through the guts to drive the defenders back. Being a real grunt, I'm sure you knew that because you stay on top of that warrior stuff.
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The bottom line is this, the days of safe operations in the rear echelons are long gone. There are no front lines anymore. Accordingly, every MOS regardless of that being combat arms or not, are in serious peril at any given moment. Although direct action is limited, any Infantryman who has the audacity to put down the skillsets of support personnel needs to get knocked on his or (and as of yesterday) HER's ass
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Yes that is what I tell everyone. The minute you leave the wire it is game on. That IED and complex attack don't say wait a minute those are support guy's they get a pass NO that shit goes off regardless. I put it like this today there is Direct Action Troops and Direct Combat Support Period. Everyone has to worry about Green on Blue and IDF also.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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CPO (Join to see) - Most troops killed in Desert Storm were in their bunk in Saudi Arabia, killed by a Scud missile. You don't have to leave the wire, or even be in the freakin' same country as the 'danger' and get killed.
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I'm not sure how it is in other branches, and it is a bit fuzzy for me how the fleet run things, but we Seabees can do everything under the sun. We mainly build, but my 'bees have seen combat in both Afghan and Iraq. So it is a lot harder to say well so and so is a support personnel and not combatant. At least in my small community we are both. We Build. We Fight! Hoorah!
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Hoorah Sir From an SWC who has done all the above and two IA's this guy is full of shit..
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SFC Joseph Weber
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Would it be a resident or distance learning class? Maybe after 12 weeks you get your sword and toga.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
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SFC Joseph Weber would that sword and toga include the speech about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor?
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SSgt Christopher Brose
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They're called Marines.

*gets popcorn ready*
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Cpl Chad Perry
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This is absolutely ridiculous. I was motor transport in an infantry regiment. Not only did I have to know my job, we were also expected to train right along side the bullet catchers. Whenever we went out to support an infantry unit we always had to pull double duty. Sure, the grunts had to hump out there while we drove the trucks. But while they were eating chow and sleeping, we were running all night long making sure they had everything they needed. Then during the day we had to dismount, gear up, and play grunt. I got to learn everything a grunt does from the basic rifleman to heavy weapons, and I even got to work with recon and snipers. I left the Marines with blown out knees, a herniated disc, and a few broken bones. Yeah, us POGs can put in an honest days work too.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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F'ing hard core Cpl, hard Corps.
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