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I believe Infantry and Operators should be treated with a higher regard in the military.
Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.
The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.
This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.
The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.
This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
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Look at what's happening to my community. In EOD we used to think we were special, the Army put a stop to that right quick.
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As a POG myself I really didn't know what to think about this myself. What I do know is that I have been on more missions both off and on island than any infantryman that I know with 6 or less year in the close to 4 years I have been in as well straining and breaking my body. Have you lifted 100's of pounds of wood every day or have to tear down and build structures back up, that shit ain't easy.
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I believe so. Pretty soon the infantry and specicial forces are going to be flooded with females.
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SN Greg Wright
MSG John Melville I don't think so. In fact, if there's more than, say, 30 female operators 10 years from now, I'll eat my shoe. Here's why:
Like males, most females won't even WANT to try to be special forces. Like most males, most females that do won't qualify. Like most males, of those that DO qualify, something like 80% will wash out (SEAL numbers, I think). Leaving 20% of already-disproportionately-small numbers to actually ever make it.
'Normal' infantry will have higher rates of females because the barrier to entry is much lower.
Like males, most females won't even WANT to try to be special forces. Like most males, most females that do won't qualify. Like most males, of those that DO qualify, something like 80% will wash out (SEAL numbers, I think). Leaving 20% of already-disproportionately-small numbers to actually ever make it.
'Normal' infantry will have higher rates of females because the barrier to entry is much lower.
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SN Greg Wright - The chances of you meeting a special operator( if they really exist, smirk) will never be known, because some operators are just that good. An example; I knew a man from my hometown who was a member of an A-team, but I didn't know it until he thought I should know. That was when we both were civilians.
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SFC (Join to see) SFC what difference would it make? We are all warriors no matter what our MOS is.
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Robert that took BALLS, and yes you are right there are those that carry a heavier burden, but this is not limited, to the physical and the killing arts, there are those that play Russian Roulette and time after time go into enemy territory to make deals.
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If the military did as you suggest, then you would not have anyone volunteering for the support roles. Everyone would want to be in a warrior class. Then you would have people assigned to the support roles because they still need to be filled.
In the Marines, everyone is a Basic Rifleman. If they need warm bodies on the front line any Marine can step up. An entire branch of the Armed Forces where the warrior is ingrained in each member.
I was a submarine hunter. My job was to hunt and kill up to five hundred people in one strike. I wasn't on the front line, but trained as a warrior nonetheless.
The United States Military has its warrior elite. SEAL, MARSOC, RANGER, SPECIAL FORCES, PARA RESCUE, COMBAT AIR CONTROLLERS, etc...
In the Marines, everyone is a Basic Rifleman. If they need warm bodies on the front line any Marine can step up. An entire branch of the Armed Forces where the warrior is ingrained in each member.
I was a submarine hunter. My job was to hunt and kill up to five hundred people in one strike. I wasn't on the front line, but trained as a warrior nonetheless.
The United States Military has its warrior elite. SEAL, MARSOC, RANGER, SPECIAL FORCES, PARA RESCUE, COMBAT AIR CONTROLLERS, etc...
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2LT Tom Waters, JD - Have one better than that what about SGT Hester with a Security Escort Team in Iraq 2005. She received a Silver star for her action. By the way she went back then to Afghanistan.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
Sorry, you are not a warrior riding around in your comfy submarine with hot chow and a thousand feet of ocean water over your head to protect you. Nope, no danger like the grunts face, no sir!
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
Sgt Joseph Baker - First, never submarine. A ship designed to sink, no thank you. Second, I agree that serving on a surface ship is nowhere near the experience that front line folks face. I am also not trying to imply that it is the same thing. Only a fool would think firing a missile or torpedo from a ship is the same thing as being on the front line. That was also not the point. The point was that there is a difference between between being a warrior and being a front line warrior. Maybe I could have clarified a little better.
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I think this is the wrong way to look at this, when thinking of unit cohesion this is the splitting maul in the log. Don't get me wrong, I have a fierce respect those who serve on the front line. Several men in my family have sacrificed their bodies in the line of duty and I came close to a deployment in Afghanistan of my own back when I was an RP. But so many of the jobs that aren't on the front line are massively critical to the frontliners survival. These men and women deserve just as much respect in my book. Now what these men and women in harms way need is better recognition post battle for the mental and physical care they require to properly recover. That is the respect that aught to be showed to these most valiant of our brothers and sisters.
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We all have a job to do. We should receive that respect equally. How you treat your soldier or the others in the military should decide what level of extra respect you receive. Just saying. Infantry lead The Way. Hooah?
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