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I believe Infantry and Operators should be treated with a higher regard in the military.
Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.
The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.
This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.
The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.
This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
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hmmm, creating a hierarchy withing the military? I think someone beat you to that idea
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I'm an academic (and former 11B) researching American 'warrior' culture. The responses on here are fascinating and a little surprising. Thank you for asking the question, but the negative reaction shows how seriously most of us believe in the value of teamwork. We may give our POG friends a hard time, but in the end the guys out front (which in Iraq could be anybody on a bad day) know we're all in it together. Your responses represent the very best values of American military service. Hoo-fuckin'-ah!
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I thought this was a question about gaming, not real life......... PoG for life.
Oh, and if you want to talk about training and destroying bodies, go watch a Sapper Leaders Course in action, and then come back and tell me that no one trains as hard as the Infantry.
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I think that maybe you are in the military for the wrong reasons, or, at the very least, have forgotten the mission. I'm former Navy, my best friend in the Navy, enlisted in the Army and is now a CWO3 operator. I respect the hell out of him, but if he said this to me, I'd laugh in his face. Then run. :)
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The military IS a warrior class.
Read Animal Farm. I'm combat arms, cavalry guy, and I think you're idea is retarded.
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Not sure what you expect our need. Accolades? A red carpet? First in line privilege at the commissary?
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I agree, that being said. I have a question for you. What is the primary MOS of every soldier that enlist in the Army? ?? If you are a true infantry, and warrior, there is only 1 answer. INFANTRY. Yep that's right, we all learn to shoot, move, and communicate. I am Infantry, since 01/1989. We may be the iron band around the wheel, but we are not infantry strong without the spokes that support us.
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This is absolutely absurd. I am a 91B Light Wheeled Mechanic. Everyday I hear the infantry guys I support " without you we would be a bunch of drooling idiots" were all the same. I put my pants on just like everyone else.
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If it were about who put more on the line. It would be 88 Mikes. Deadliest MOS in Iraq
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And this drivel coming from a supposed SNCO. Makes me glad I'm retired and don't have to deal with idiocy of this sort. Good Lord, don't we have enough TRUE problems without creating more?
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No. This is the kind of thought process that you usually get from junior enlisted, "I'm infantry, I'm a badass". Let's reverse this thought process for a second. Let's remember all those service members who were not infantry/SOC and yet stepped up to engage in combat or give their lives. You say you train constantly for combat, well they didn't and yet they still engaged in the same fight as the infantrymen around them. Remember that the next time you start feeling superior.
I'm not going to delve into the whole cycle of POG/Grunt supporting each other towards a common mission as others have already covered it sufficiently.
I'm not going to delve into the whole cycle of POG/Grunt supporting each other towards a common mission as others have already covered it sufficiently.
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“Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a Warrior, and he will bring the others back.” -Heraclitus, 480 BC
For me, being a Warrior is a state of mind expanding beyond military service. Police, Fire, and many civilians such as teachers who fight to protect their students from attackers, and parents who've never fired even a pellet gun who battle against intruders intent on harm are Warriors. How far am I willing to go, for how long, and for whom. 2,500 years from now no one will really care what my military job was, but instead, if I did everything I could do for all.
That's my two cents.
Former Army Medic
Veteran of Desert Storm, and OIF.
For me, being a Warrior is a state of mind expanding beyond military service. Police, Fire, and many civilians such as teachers who fight to protect their students from attackers, and parents who've never fired even a pellet gun who battle against intruders intent on harm are Warriors. How far am I willing to go, for how long, and for whom. 2,500 years from now no one will really care what my military job was, but instead, if I did everything I could do for all.
That's my two cents.
Former Army Medic
Veteran of Desert Storm, and OIF.
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