Posted on Dec 1, 2015
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I believe Infantry and Operators should be treated with a higher regard in the military.

Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.

The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.

This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
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SFC Pump Technician
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Spoken like a McDonald's employee demanding $15/hr.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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I am literally laughing to death right now! I must be a warrior! Yours is the best comment I have read today.
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Lord of the flys people. We all have a job to do and we all do that job as professionals. With respect SFC I'd recommend you reconsider your position on non combat arms warriors. After all a grunt with out Intel is blind, a grunt without be supplied with his rifle is useless, a grunt without finance is broke, a grunt without chaplains is with out a soul and a grunt without JAG is with out consul.
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CPT Quentin von Éfáns-Taráfdar
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Especially well said in view of the fact that you are an infantryman
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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I don't think those Seals that were memorialized in Sole Survivor didn't think of those brave Chinook pilots and crewmen that died trying to rescue them were not warriors.
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The Infantryman tang wants to be treated special trains up and goes to places where people are special. SFAS, Ranger BN, CAG, etc. True everyone's job is important, everyone busts their tail ends to make the Army work. While the Infantry are the sluggers of the battlefield, getting shot at and blown up having enlisted for the purpose of killing and simply that we can not do any of those things without the support guys. I've been Infantry for going on 11 years now. I do make fun of POGs when given the opportunity but never in my life would I get on the bad side of my medics, my mechanics or my cooks. Always bring them guys and gals cookies or bring them gatorades. If you want to be treated special then go be special.
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MSgt Michael Smith
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Yeah, see how far that 'Warrior' body gets you without intel or air support. See how far those "true warriors' get without any equipment procurement, vehicle operations, or air support. Without those lowly non-combat types your ass is nowhere. Get over yourself.
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This is the same as in the Air Force a lot of pilots thought they were the best and everyone else was of a lower class. It is a put down for all those specialities that support the Infantry and the Operators.
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Wow....where to begin.

The Army already has somewhat of a feudal system in place (ever looked at a parking lot near a Brigade HQ for five minutes?)

Second, why the ego-stroking? The Army is a value-based organization, and those values are taught to all who join, and they apply to all who join.

Third, this is garbage, and I won't waste any more time on it. Good luck in your quest for "respect".
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CPL Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic
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It doesn't matter what I say, I'll just get called a butthurt POG. Throwin a downvote, exit stage left.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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Wisest man in the class folks, right here!
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SPC Thomas Johnson
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We don't do what we do for a "higher regard" than others. We do what we do because it needs to get done.

And we can't do that without the support of everyone else. This isn't some movie where a single dude takes down an army with his bare hands just because he's "spec ops"; the mission is completed when everyone does their job.

If you're not getting the "higher regard" you feel you deserve, it's probably because you don't.

MOS - 11B1V
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SGT Andrew Hosford
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Just like every organization ever created in the history of mankind, there is a formal structure and an informal one. Special treatment is given to those who are informally recognized as having earned it. Special operators have always enjoyed these little perks to varying degrees because others in the military recognize the additional training, qualification, and sacrifice they make as well as their unit's track history. And everyone knows that the higher up the chain you go, the more you can get away with, but you also have farther to fall. If you abuse those informal perks the formal system will correct you. Institutionalizing special RECOGNITION has been part of military tradition since its birth. It's why we have awards, special qualification badges, and all sorts of recognition for special accomplishments. But institutionalizing special TREATMENT is a slippery slope. Whose to say the individual grunt on the ground is more operationally valuable than the MI who found the target in the first place? Or the crew chief and pilots who stopped superior enemy numbers from overrunning a position? Or the mechanics who ensured the vehicles wouldn't break down in the middle of a patrol? Let the formal system do what it's good at, maintaining discipline and operational effectiveness, while letting the informal system do what it's good at, filling in the gaps that the formal system can't systematically address.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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Right you are. A caste system has no place in the military(other than the obvious: Marines are the best). In the Corps, every Marine is a rifleman first, so there is really only one class. Marines who have a support role as their secondary MOS give respect to the danger and deprivation the grunts have to endure, but our grunts also respect us as Marines and know first hand how great it is to have brothers and sisters that will send food, ammo, medical care and evacuation, artillery rounds and air strikes so that they may live to see the sun come up in the morning; while at the same time being subjected to artillery attacks, suicide bombers, snipers potentially while carrying out their 'support' role. Is a Marine driving a resupply truck to a FOB that hits an IED less of a hero than the grunts awaiting those supplies they desperately need? I think not.
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MAJ Matthew Arnold
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In a way, it already exists. You look around and you know who they are. You work with them for a while and you know who they are. I am not one of them, but I know who they are.
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