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I believe Infantry and Operators should be treated with a higher regard in the military.
Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.
The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.
This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.
The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.
This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
Posted 10 y ago
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I bet your part that yoing group that got a "Participation Trophy". Witjout winning a thing. Respect is earned, your on a team and need all parts to be effective.
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Typical cocky grunt. Nobody takes away from what infantry, grunts or operators do. Hell if anybody deserves more respect its operators. Those small group of elite who sure as hell have done more than general infantry. One team one fight. It takes every mos/job to make everything work.
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Just an ordinary civilian here....never served ( although I did get offered to join post college as an OCS candidate, which I stupidly turned down ....oh well, roads not taken.....anyway.....) - seems like the vast majority of responses favor no special treatment of a "warrior class", pointing out that everyone on the team contributes, and sacrifices in their own way. I think that most folks recognize the unofficial pecking order anyway, and know who's a member of the warrior class or not. As others have pointed out, certain roles are inherently more dangerous than others, but one can never be certain as to what one can be called upon to do in any role. As many have pointed out, it takes the entire team to make it all happen, or else the "warriors" can't function. My father served as an officer in the Merchant Marine in WW2 in the engine room - in spite of this, he still was wounded in a "skirmish" with a U-Boat, and suffered for the remainder of his life with those wounds - one would never consider his specialty as being one of those in the warrior class, but he sacrificed his body just as much as a Marine would have on Iwo Jima.
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SGT John Rauch
wait, honestly, no disrespect, but I though you had to serve to be on rp? just curious
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I see a lot of negative votes for you and I disagree with that. Everyone has a right to an opinion. But to your point, in a war like we currently fight mos is immaterial. Soldiers of every job have face the challenges of this war and have seen combat. I've done just as many tours as many in combat mos' and been engaged as well.
That said combat arms is choice. And your Blue is your recognition. Other than that somebody might get you a cookie but that's about it... Ask yourself could you do the job of an aviation mechanic. Or a parachute rigger, or a cook, ammunition specialist, or any other of the 150+ careers. Bottom line without your CS and CSS you would lose. Period. Read any book about war and the one tactic that has always made a country win is attack the supply line. You can't win without beans and bullets, intelligence and communication, 11B so maybe now you can see us in equal regard.
That said combat arms is choice. And your Blue is your recognition. Other than that somebody might get you a cookie but that's about it... Ask yourself could you do the job of an aviation mechanic. Or a parachute rigger, or a cook, ammunition specialist, or any other of the 150+ careers. Bottom line without your CS and CSS you would lose. Period. Read any book about war and the one tactic that has always made a country win is attack the supply line. You can't win without beans and bullets, intelligence and communication, 11B so maybe now you can see us in equal regard.
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You get recognition, blue cord, blue disc backers, and a blue backed badge. Beyond that, you're the same as every other person in the military, you wake up, do your job, go to sleep and repeat. 11B, then 89D, so I've been on both sides of the argument.
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Completely agree. And what a lot of higher ups are missing is you treat your Infantry like shit compared to your pogs.
When I was a grunt I worked longer hours, did more miserable work, and statistically promoted less and promoted slower than many peers on the pog side. So you might think everyone ought to get treated the same but we have a way to go even to that goal.
Additionally the infantry is the heart and soul of the corps. A little bit of deference would he appreciated. In the old days this was called common sense, or "you look like an asshole kicking grunts out the chow line for being dirty when they just got to the rear after a month in the field" but we don't have that today.
When I was a grunt I worked longer hours, did more miserable work, and statistically promoted less and promoted slower than many peers on the pog side. So you might think everyone ought to get treated the same but we have a way to go even to that goal.
Additionally the infantry is the heart and soul of the corps. A little bit of deference would he appreciated. In the old days this was called common sense, or "you look like an asshole kicking grunts out the chow line for being dirty when they just got to the rear after a month in the field" but we don't have that today.
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SN Greg Wright
Cpl Evan Kikla Sure. So you go do your thing. And the cooks who feed you will feed someone else. The medics who tend to you when you're wounded will tend someone else. The logistics types who get you your weapons and ammo, will send them to someone else. The intel weenies who would tell you where there's a group of the enemy about to ambush you, will turn their attention, and tell someone else.
Let's see how your elite self does then?
Let's see how your elite self does then?
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Can't be done. Someone high up in the chain will just smack it down and we'll have another "Give the Black Beret Away" fiasco......
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