Posted on Dec 1, 2015
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I believe Infantry and Operators should be treated with a higher regard in the military.

Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.

The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.

This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
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CW4 Division Targeting Officer
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We are all Warriors. Thinking that you are superior to others because of you MOS is foolish, ignorant and the initial point of failure. One team one fight.
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1stSgt Mack Housman
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One word for you my friend and fellow veteran..."Ridiculous!"
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LCpl Kim Kroeger
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I saw this post and kind of understand but at the same time I don't. As a Marine and a combat one to boot, if it wasn't for all my fellow servicemen all working each and every position my ass wouldn't have made it back from Nam. I remember each branch and each ones efforts while in Khe Sanh and in Quang Tri by Dong Ha. Marines, Navy, Air Forces, Sea Bees, and Army were all around me and had input every step of the way. Even the clerks back stateside doing paperwork for the new recruits who were going to replace each one of us. We are all part of the Team and I respect each and every position.
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CPL Ralph Moschler
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Yes , I was army , but you have to love the marines every body infantry and everybody fights
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Edited 7 y ago
Not a class... but definitely a culture. You can not socially stratify a true warrior and that was the mistake of the Japanese Samurai culture. Being a warrior entails more than a gung-ho attitude or belonging to a particular branch. We are long overdue in understanding what being a warrior truly is. Good luck to us Americans with realizing that at the proper time.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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Hey, I assume you graduated high school so take of the Letterman's Jacket.
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SFC Thomas Butler
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Wow! The question posed is so stupid that I don't think this thread is ever going to end.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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Edited 7 y ago
While you may be right about the physical and emotional rigors of combat I disagree about the notion of a warrior class, as we already have Marines. But what is not recognized is the mental and academic rigor that many 'Support' people go through on top of the same physical demands during training. Take the wing Marines for example: we had to go through Marine boot camp which is undoubtedly the toughest basic training, but it doesn't end there. Then we join our Navy comrades in some of the most demanding technical training. Then we serve a longer enlistment which increases your odds of serving during a major conflict. During such conflict you may be asked to take an infantry role in protecting your forward operating base. In Gulf War 1, more of our people died serving support roles than in infantry when an Iraqi missile hit a barracks. Many support people came back with Gulf War Syndrome. How about the thousands of sailors who were killed serving in support roles in our fleets during WWs 1 and 2? The notion that you are safe in support roles, that you won"t be called to face the danger simply is not true. We POGs appreciate that grunts have it tough, with fewer creature comforts, but it is a slap in the face to not acknowledge that we make sure our grunts get what help they need, and often face danger in doing so. That is why we have one title in the Corps, Marine, and we all earn it the same way.
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After recent changes pretty much anyone can be a grunt. Not everyone can be an operator. Maybe if Benning installed an actual selection and screening process you could consider yourself elite (30th AG doesn't count). If you want respect, hang your blue cord on your rear view mirror and get your cross rifles tattooed on your arm below your rank like a real man.
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The moment I start to see Stolen Valor posers claiming to be cooks or mechanics then maybe all the "the army is a team" type comments will have a more significant impact on my opinion. I see a lot of but hurt comments on here from people who want equality and believe they're in the same level as other MOS'. Be proud of the MOS you chose. If you're a cook then be proud to go to the chow hall and flip eggs and fill drink machines and prep salads. If you're a mechanic be proud to turn wrenches and change wheels. If you're a pac clerk then be proud to flip file and submit paperwork. Anyone who is an infantryman is proud to be that. Same with tankers and cav scouts. They're proud of their branch. Be proud of yours and stop getting emotional anytime a question of distinction of MOS' are brought up. Stolen Valor people don't claim to have picked up cases of MRE's or turning a wrench or fueling a vehicle. Stolen Valor perpetrators wear CIB' and Ranger and SF tabs. They wear blue cords and blue discs and cross rifles. That right there should tell you that society views that there is a "warrior class". 80% of the comments I've read about this post tell me that people are in their feelings because they don't feel like they are being treated the same as combat arms. Well guess what? You're not treated the same. You're treated like whatever your MOS is. Point blank period. Everyone is not a rifleman. Everyone is not basically infantry. Everyone does not do what the infantry does. Just like the infantry doesn't do what other jobs do. The title rifleman is one of the first titles earned after the infantryman graduates infantry OSUT. The rifleman everyone speaks of is the regular soldier that should have a basic understanding of basic tasks....not basic infantry tasks or small unit tactics. But he'll once most of non infantry or combat arms people graduate your basic training you lose every ounce of proficiency gained. That's the reality. I've seen it time and time again in my career. You better be proud of the MOS you chose because infantrymen, tankers, and cav scouts are. Get out of your feelings ladies and gentlemen.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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Yeah, but you Army grunts get your feelings hurt all the time when we Marines point out the fact that the Corps is the only branch where the entire branch is considered an elite force. Get out of your feelings..
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Bravo, brother! You've really shown me. I mean you really proved your point and shut me down. Look here brother, I'm not going to get into a palaver with a fellow grunt about whose branch of service is has the biggest balls. It's all a matter of semantics and opinion, just like this article in the blog. If you feel the Marines are an elite force then that's what it is. I mean, you're wearing the the honored and respected USMC uniform so i hope you would feel that way, as i do about the Army and the Infantry. But hey, congratulations though
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