Posted on Sep 17, 2021
Should the military upgrade bad marijuana discharges?
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Now that marijuana has been legalized in the majority of the US and the stigma against it has changed, smoking weed is akin to smoking cigarettes, and some would argue smoking cigarettes is more harmful. I was looking at the Army DRB and they seem to be approving or changing discharges for people who were discharge solely for marijuana usage. I’m not 100% sure but I assume it’s because the narrative surrounding weed has changed.
So in your opinion should the military as a whole upgrade or edit discharges that were based solely on marijuana usage?
So in your opinion should the military as a whole upgrade or edit discharges that were based solely on marijuana usage?
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I'm not one for changing the past just because the present has changed. For instance, let's suppose that someone broke into your home at night, and under your states Castle Doctrine you shot and killed the armed intruder. All legal and you complied 100% with the current law. Five years pass and under new government your state now has NO Castle Doctrine. Is it right for the state to now come down on you for 2nd degree homicide for shooting the armed intruder?
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No. Simply no, you know it’s illegal in the military and we’re not civilians, and a misdemeanor here in the outside world isn’t applicable to the military and UCMJ I’d suppose. Sorry the cigarette thing doesn’t wash, nor does any comparison to say Jack Daniels. It’s still federally illegal although obviously some states have legalized it, like Ca, Wa etc. I say this knowing full well I did wrong back in the day, but I was only drug tested like day 1-2 at Parris Island and never again.
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Depends. If someone was caught high on duty, with a weapon, operating a vehicle, or other equipment, then no. An otherwise good Soldier who just pissed hot? Yes. Massive waste of money and talent discharging good Soldiers for weed while retaining mediocre, underperforming and toxic Soldiers. My sympathy is not unlimited because it’s still federally illegal, and it’s stupid to risk your career for weed. Current federal laws on weed are outdated, stupid, and need to be updated. I wish I could try weed, but I’m willing to wait until either I retire or it’s no longer prohibited by the DOD.
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I think they should not receive a level of discharge that will affect their VA benefits. A Bad Conduct discharge is too strict unless their drug use caused physical harm or destruction of property. Failing a piss test should not earn someone a bad conduct discharge. Just because someone has pot in their system does not necessarily make them a bad soldier. The only reason many service members get released for smoking pot is because they peed in a bottle. If senior NCOs and flag officers shake their head because they can't believe one of their best troops came up hot, that tells you some can handle it responsibly, some cannot. Just like other substances. I agree that until the fed reschedules pot, discharges should not be changed. It is violation of federal law, but doesn't deserve a discharge reserved for service members who truly exhibit bad conduct. Especially since most of these discharges are junior enlisted serving their first term.
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I think so. With an apology for drafting and sending the best of our youth to save the Frogs.
A culture that is agrarian and shares everything does not need Capitalism and our way of life was not at risk.
I do not condone being impaired on active duty. But the BS that was Vietnam reminds me of the BS in Afghanistan. Endless war.
G-d Bless our Vietnam veterans for the Bull shit they had to endure in country and coming home.
Give every swinging ***k a f***ing break.
Over and out.
A culture that is agrarian and shares everything does not need Capitalism and our way of life was not at risk.
I do not condone being impaired on active duty. But the BS that was Vietnam reminds me of the BS in Afghanistan. Endless war.
G-d Bless our Vietnam veterans for the Bull shit they had to endure in country and coming home.
Give every swinging ***k a f***ing break.
Over and out.
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Question, why is it we keep trying to change the past due to future changes such as legalizing marijuana for example. I think this is part of the cancel culture movement to erase events in the past to make them right by todays standards. I have never done illegal drugs of any kind, but knew of people that did they knew if they got caught would get into trouble but did it anyway. I also know knowing the risk of getting caught was making them paranoid and this combined with the daily stress of military life made them dangerous because they could get seriously hurt, hurt someone else or damage to military property. I think that you were under the "UCMJ" while serving in the military and are subject to its laws and penalties if you were smoking marijuana and got caught you would be punished accordingly. I ets stop trying to correct wrongs made in the past but learn from them and move on to a better tomorrow.
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Akin to smoking cigarettes. You can not be that ignorant! You have e to breakdown you logic on that one. I believe you’re conflating effects and perceptions
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A1C Chris Pointer
As in smoking weed was seen as some devil drug that would make you kill your family and resulted in many people being thrown in jail.
But today it’s seen as normal as smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol. It’s also being used increasingly medicinally
But today it’s seen as normal as smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol. It’s also being used increasingly medicinally
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