Posted on Jul 5, 2017
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06/alabama_congressman_proposes_c.html
The proposal would put the branch under the command of the Air Force, though the commander would be a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, much like the Marine Corps' role in the Navy. The proposal sets a Jan. 1, 2019 deadline for the creation of a Space Corps. The Air Force is ...rejecting the plan.
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CW4 Guy Butler
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I'd go with Navy. If there's anyone who starts out with an understanding of three-dimensional movement in death pressure conditions, it's the folks in the sardi-er, submarines.
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CW4, I think you mean zero pressure, since that's what space is. Which means if anyone knows it, it's the people who operate aircraft (blow a seal underwater, you're crushed; blow a seal at high altitudes, you suffocate).
Which I guess you could say is also the Navy to some degree.
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PO3 Curtis Frey
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... Blowing seals...that's funny, only from the minds of Nubbism! For the record, you'll burn to death before you drown, we can't "spacewalk" too look at a repair...or have every tool, instruction, procedure or order for our daily lives...most of it is made on the fly, as a situation arises....so you take 110 guys (gals) too, put them and a nuclear reactor and full weapon load in the ass of one of your c-5's...then breath in real deep, shut the hatch and drive with no windows...and run every drill known too man, do an ORSE, TRE plus chase the rabbit...yeah...guess we could survive floating around in space playing Euker!
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TSgt Ncoic, Combat Training Detachment
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PO3 Curtis Frey - Actually from the mind of James F. Reilly, an astronaut and my instructor when I attended Space 200 at Peterson AFB. Direct quote, actually.
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PO3 Curtis Frey
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TSgt...you didn't grasp the humor in "blowing seals"...it's all good, everyone has their job/career - some just don't get anymore attention than a dog riding a skateboard...but we weren't ever there, you know...there :). God bless!
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TSgt Melissa Post
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No there shouldn't. Why complicate things that don't need complication. How does that saying go? Oh yeah-"If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Too many people are trying to "fix" things in our military and even our government. All this does is waste money and time.

By the way, I really like how everyone other than the security forces MSgt and myself, are from other branches and only one of those even has any experience with things that go into space...is there a little bit of branch jealousy from those that don't get to explore the "last frontier"? lol
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TSgt Melissa Post - Damn right lol
I don't know if it should exist or not, Space is important for sure but we have a Space Command covering it. Maybe lay the ground work and finish it later when it's needed, I don't know. I do know I want the Army to steal the A-10 from you guys and roll Army Aviation into the Air Corps again. Just putting that out there.
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It's broke. I have been working space the last eight years; it's broke as Hell. Constant re-orgs, budget shortfalls, manning crunches. Space is literally looked down upon by the Air Force (yes, I get how weird that sounds). The Air Force is and always has been solely focused on air breathers, not space. The current leadership is rejecting it specifically because of that; they don't want to shift any focus from airborne ops. We have to fight tooth and nail to get a couple thousand bucks for a space TDY, but an average airborne body gets 40k for unlimited TDYs without even requiring justification. My last justification line for a TDY on the budget sheet was three paragraphs, it got turned down. But when I send it up to ACC, I see fighter squadrons with one sentence justifications and automatic approval.
I brought up the idea of a space corps with Congressman Mac Thornberry when he was visiting us out in Japan back in 2007. I didn't know at the time this had been being thought of since around 2000, but it simply made sense to me. The Army also fought tooth and nail back in 1947 to keep the Air Force from splitting. Yes, we did not become a subordinate branch, but it worked out. There WILL be an independent space branch. That's not if, it's when. And it might as well be now.
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TSgt (Join to see) - Works for me. I know people will make jabs about not having space ships but they don't realize just how much of our work is done with satellites. On top of that, we might as well lay the ground work now for the future of space warfare.
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I also have been working in space (well, you know, not IN space, but the field) for eight years; I'm currently the senior analyst for Space TASE (Space Tactics & Adversary Study Element), the only cell of its kind in the DoD.
So trust me, I know what you mean lol.
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This is a hard one. In the early 1900’s there was arguments for and against establishing the Air Force as a separate service. A service’s role is to organize, train, and equip... and present forces to a combatant commander. The question should be how would a separate space force improve or enhance the readiness and lethality of the overall joint force? Space Command’s fundamental focus is still the earth. Once the focus changes from space - earth to Earth - space, I’ll see the need.
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