Posted on Sep 26, 2015
Should there be added benefits to Soldiers who completed their full 8 year requirement and were discharged honorably?
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Just throwing this out there to see how what kind of response it would get. I think some sort of yearly stipend would be cool. Nothing outrageous but something to say hey thanks for your service!
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I would say at most, the ability to access the PX and Commissary. However nothing more then that and here is why. Besides the VA Benefits such as Post 9/11 and others people have already stated, one advantage you have over the retiree is that if you go into another federal Job your time in can be counted towards that retirement. However if a retiree does this they may actually lose the pension they earned. It is a double edge sword.
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Every single person that signs on the dotted line gets paid for what they do. I don't see any reason to reward someone for doing what they have already agreed to, especially after the fact.
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I would think of it this way, in the 8 years you were in, you were taught a profession, sent to leadership schools, given leadership opportunities and were offered college with tuition assistance and free access to CLEP exams. If you took it, you also get the GI Bill coming out. Ask anyone who has worked for a company like Boeing, Lockheed, etc, what they get after 8 years in a company, did the company give them education while they were in, and what benefits were offered when they left. I would say the Military does good by you now, versus when I was in at 8 years, and definitely takes care of you better with the GI Bill, than the original VEAP that was offered a lot of people who got out when I was at the 8 year mark. So, count your blessing, you have been given a great opportunity, one that a lot of your predecessors wish they had, and your post military benefits are the best since the original GI Bill. Oh, and the pay is a lot better and housing benefits are equal to what you pay, versus in 1991, when I shelled out over half of my base pay, because BHA didn't cover a studio apt, let alone a apartment big enough for your family. So again, I think the military today, are taking care of the troops, a lot better than the 90's, or even the 80's.
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No, BUT Thanks for the question.
I say that, because I think that it brings up a struggle that many former military deal with in not being proud of their service to their country.
You put in 6-8 years and then use your training to make a decision NOT to re-up. We should do a better job supporting one another and helping in the transition. Instead of giving the cold shoulder to those who make a decision not to Re-Up. It is like we sever ourselves from SM who don't continue to retirement.
JUST TODAY, I questioned whether I should be called a combat veteran. Irrational argument with myself I know. I have been sworn into the enlisted Corps, Re-upped 2 times as an NCO and commissioned as an officer and deployed once in my 12 1/2 years of service. I medically retired. BUT During my PEB/MEB/Medical Retirement process, I had a senior officer state to me that, "I was taking up a Junior Officer slot." This was after I came off of life support for lung issues from my Iraq deployment. 4 years later, I questioned whether I should be called a combat veteran, because of that comment. I question whether I fought hard enough to get better. I know that this is an idiotic argument that I am having with myself because in the past 2 months I have been admitted to the hospital 2 times and had to visit the ER 2 times. I digress.
INSTEAD of being proud of my service, I go back to comments made by fellow servicemen who demeaned my service and I have a hard time remembering to be proud of my service time.
So my answer to your question is this....no there should not be added benefits to Soldiers who complete their 8 year requirement honorably. BUT being proud of your service AND the courage it takes to step out into the civilian world after that commitment is completed is what I wish as the benefit for all former service members. Just my two cents.
I say that, because I think that it brings up a struggle that many former military deal with in not being proud of their service to their country.
You put in 6-8 years and then use your training to make a decision NOT to re-up. We should do a better job supporting one another and helping in the transition. Instead of giving the cold shoulder to those who make a decision not to Re-Up. It is like we sever ourselves from SM who don't continue to retirement.
JUST TODAY, I questioned whether I should be called a combat veteran. Irrational argument with myself I know. I have been sworn into the enlisted Corps, Re-upped 2 times as an NCO and commissioned as an officer and deployed once in my 12 1/2 years of service. I medically retired. BUT During my PEB/MEB/Medical Retirement process, I had a senior officer state to me that, "I was taking up a Junior Officer slot." This was after I came off of life support for lung issues from my Iraq deployment. 4 years later, I questioned whether I should be called a combat veteran, because of that comment. I question whether I fought hard enough to get better. I know that this is an idiotic argument that I am having with myself because in the past 2 months I have been admitted to the hospital 2 times and had to visit the ER 2 times. I digress.
INSTEAD of being proud of my service, I go back to comments made by fellow servicemen who demeaned my service and I have a hard time remembering to be proud of my service time.
So my answer to your question is this....no there should not be added benefits to Soldiers who complete their 8 year requirement honorably. BUT being proud of your service AND the courage it takes to step out into the civilian world after that commitment is completed is what I wish as the benefit for all former service members. Just my two cents.
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I don't think money or a pension, no but I think an ID with base access and PX/BX and DeCA privileges sure. Only because it could keep DeCA and AAFES alive. People don't bat an eye that AAFES is (or was) looking for a way for all honorably discharged veterans to shop online, plus people who have a star card but are discharged can shop from AAFES online and when you bring up the idea of letting veterans (again honorably discharged) physically visit the base and shop at AAFES and/or DeCA and possibly keep them afloat, people loose their minds.
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I'm gonna say no. We knew what we were getting ourselves into plain and simple. I do believe any military personnel who served honarbly should still be granted base access and privelages. And I'd like to see them be able to keep Tricare if needed. And it would be nice to be exempt from property taxes. I'm disabled and have base privelages and are exempt from property taxes but it would be nice for all who served honarbly. Just my thought.
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Each of us signs up for a reason. My reason was the GI Bill. Funny thing happened along the way, Turns out I loved the life. What's my point? Each of us must've clear in the why. A veteran is a veteran because of selfless service and sacrifice for and to this great Nation. We know the rules from day one...the tasks, the conditions, and the standards...the standard is, do the time, all of the time...earn your full measure, all of it, every damn inch.
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You have to be kidding me. I would like to know what makes the new service person better than the old. You signed the line do your time. If your in the right MOS you get a additional funds. The government don't take care of retirees so what makes you so special. Not being disrespectful to you cause. But if you look at a E-8 that went through the first Gulf War at 1200 per month and a retired E-8 today 2500. I think you got your bonus
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SGT Del Lavature
1SG with all due respect your assuming that I'm asking for a handout. I posed a question I didn't expect to mocked by a senior officers and NCOs. Every year the VA poses different benefits for veterans. I wasn't just thinking of myself but all veterans that have served honorably and the stipend to which I was referring to was truely minimal. My original thought was half a percent of your last base pay once a year on your ETS date. Now I agree I could've asked my question differently so I'll wear the criticism. I served 8 years active duty I loved each and everyone one of those years I served and expect nothing more out of va or army however please don't assume I'm an unemployed leach trying to work the system. Nore am I trying to impede upon your well deserved retirement benefits and privileges. Thank you for your response.
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1SG Bill Wayne
Not Mocking you. Just stating fact. Each generation receives better pay than the last. Once your out your gone and forgotten. The reason I said what I did is this is a military family. I drive a middle class car ( My Time) and my newly retired Brother drives a z6 Vett ( The new retired) . Both retired with same time and grade. So there you have it. Once your out time stops you don't get the pay raises. Could you see how the balance would be tilted if they start paying for time completed. I don't assume anything. Now if you wish to talk about un employable benefits the VA has funds for that and covers it under a disability act. As with you I am still working my retirement don't cove real life.
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No, because we have a hard enough time with disability claims and payments, how much more will the system get screwed up start paying veterans who served less than 20 years.
Nice idea but I think its not really feasible.
Nice idea but I think its not really feasible.
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