Posted on Feb 27, 2015
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Trainees are now able to voluntarily withdraw from Basic Combat Training, be it through a written VW, CMHS drop, or through repeated patterns of misconduct. Should they be allowed to quit, or should they be legally forced to complete the contract that they signed? Minimum time of service, meet the basic requirements of that contract, etc?

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CW4 Craig Urban
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No. Last week.
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SFC Byron Perry
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Nope
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CSM Patrick Durr
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I spent 3 years a drill sergeant and 2 years an OSUT Infantry 1SG. In my experience, every trainee wanted to quit at least once. Given the chance, many would have that ultimately went on to graduate and be quite successful. So, no. If they choose to go through the process of pattern of misconduct or the mental hygiene route by lying...then let the characterization of the discharge so reflect for at least a short time. Tough lessons learned for today's youth.
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SGT George Smith
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XHell no!!
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Sgt Carlos Perez
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If it’s a discharge it should be other then honorable, our arm forces have been Depleted thru our pass administration, but now we have a leader at the helm, and hopefully he will bring our great arm forces to the top again. We have a leader thru Trump our President who cares for country and believe in power thru strength, our men and women of our arm forces should be second to none. I for one do not want to see our military weaken ever again.
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SSG Marshall Paul
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I do not think it was an option in '67, so it shocks me to hear of it. Maybe our way was not the right way, however. So I will read others' thoughts with interest.
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Let em out. No drama or dirty looks, but make sure to shut their pay off immediately and get them on a bus home at their own expense. Recoup costs via wage garnishment or as an offset on their next tax refund. Also, the re-code will probably be listed as "N/A" simce they will have less than 180 days, but if they wanna split while in bootcamp then they should probably just be designated an RE-4 so they can't pull that "I wanna give it another try" bullshit because they can't afford to return to school and are working some minimum wage job going nowhere. Clear the path for folks who took the oath and contract seriously. One has the opportunity to ask questions and make an informed decision before signing.

http://military.findlaw.com/administrative-issues-benefits/what-is-a-military-enlistment-contract.html
Daniel Torluemke
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Why not take the one's having a hard time and put them into a remedial platoon until they are ready for Basic training. Don't humiliate them, teach them how to March, make their bunks, clean their weapons, get them up to speed with the physical requirements. allow them to deal with home sickness. Perhaps a three week class. I'm willing to wager more would make it if they did this. To a lot of them the initial shock is too much and it psych's them out before they can know if they can hack it or not. Seems like this would be a better and less expensive way for the military to deal with this.
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Daniel Torluemke
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I went into the Army in 1976. I was 17 years old. My recruiter filled me with tons of lies. I had no clue what I was getting onto. I couldn't wait to get there. It was the biggest mistake of my life. I was too young and immature, and was unable to hack it. While they made my life a living hell for about three weeks, telling me that I was a "Sorry excuse for a human being," and worse, they gave me a 635-1 Honorable Discharge . I did not get any Vets benefits but I was given an honorable discharge. In the years since then I have been a productive tax paying citizen. I regret that I could not hack it but I was just a kid. I didn't even shave yet. Why would you wish to ruin anyone's life at such a young age simply because they made a mistake enlisting?
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CPT Arch Nissel
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Trainees should not be allowed to drop for other than the older "Family" requirements. They may not get the training but even if they are regulated to chain gangs they started it they need to finish it.
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