Posted on Feb 27, 2015
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Trainees are now able to voluntarily withdraw from Basic Combat Training, be it through a written VW, CMHS drop, or through repeated patterns of misconduct. Should they be allowed to quit, or should they be legally forced to complete the contract that they signed? Minimum time of service, meet the basic requirements of that contract, etc?

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SFC Senior Civil Engineer/Annuitant
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They could always quit. The only question is how much time should they serve before they are set free. They should have to pay back the investment,
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I concur. But how do we measure the work vs investment amounts?
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SPC (Join to see) - Pay for all recruiting, travel, uniforms, and training costs received. There may be some outstanding costs but that at least would be an honest effort.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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They absolutely should be able to quit.
Army Basic training is not hard. If they can't handle that, then we don't need or want them in uniform. Get the ones that can't hack it out early, before we've invested too much into them.
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If you sign up for the military, Swear in,(most likely at MEPS when you complete your physical and then the day you leave for boot camp), You have had ample time to change your mind. You are signing a binding contract. Which is most likely the first adult thing you have done up to that point. Suck it up and get through it. In the end of it all, you will be a better person for it.
Do your homework and learn what is expected of you before you sign up. Tons of YouTube videos out there for basic training.
So no, I do not think anyone should be able to quit without repercussions. A lot of money will be spent on you on your journey. Only caveat I guess would be that you have to pay back what the military has spent on you, to include your trip back home. My 2 Cents
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COL George Antochy
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They should be allowed to be dropped. If not some Commander will have to deal with the individual latter. Better to cut our losses sooner than later. I would then issue a bar for the individual from future Military or Federal Service for 5 years, and bar them from Federal assistance (grants, EBT, welfare, loans). People need to understand that there are consequences for their actions. Grow up snowflake.
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Sir, respectfully, were you referring to ME as the snowflake? Or a hypothetical trainee that dropped themselves out of BCT?
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COL George Antochy
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Snowflake was a direct reference to people who decide they want to be in the military and then don't have what it takes to make the commitment. There are a lot of want-a-be's out there, and we don't need them in our Services. I apologize if you mis-interperted my comment. It's like when I arrived at Airborne School. The first time I thought it was too hard, and maybe not for me, I looked to my left and then to my right, and told myself that I was no lesser a Soldier then they were, so suck it up buttercup and do your best, and then do more.
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COL George Antochy, on that, we concur. There are a great many things in life that we often underestimate. The measure of a man's mettle is how he handles the unexpected difficulty and overcomes it, rather than how loudly he complains about the struggle.

Do not mistake me, there have been many times in my life where I simply wanted to complain. There wasnt a solution, and no way to make it easier, but merely the ability to complain about it made it a bit more bearable. But these days, it certainly seems like the threshold for difficulty had greatly downgraded to assimilate a softer and more emotion-based soldier into a culture of nurture, rather than nature. Personally, I think that when it comes to thing like war, nature is the very key to survival. You adapt, adjust, evolve and overcome, or you die. Sadly, it seems a great many leaders, at several levels, have forgotten this, or simply ignored it out of fear of complaints or PC retaliation.
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Cpl Ricardo Toledo
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In my opinion when I went to Bootcamp (1989). I didn't even know you had choices to quit. It never crossed my mind. Lets be honest though your recruiter doesn't exactly explain to you the realities of Boot camp. He's just racking up poolees. If within the first week you honestly feel it's not for you they should be able to duscharge you without ruining your young future. That is all
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GySgt Herman Poe
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My knee jerk reaction is trash him. But if we keep, The trainee if he is passed. Well then he may be the guy next to you in combat. So give him a dishonorable.
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HN Alan Dignan
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They should not be discharged before 120 days except for medical or mental reasons. When I went to Navy Boot Camp. If you were a screw up, you went to the MIC company. If they didn't straighten you out, then you weren't worth having. The only ones who marched better were the stockade prisoners going to the meal hall. I could not blieve it when I was told you only had to tell your NCO you wanted out.
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HN Alan Dignan
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They should be treated like when I went to Navy Boot Camp. Those who had dicipld
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SFC Sean Funkhouser
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It should be a dishonorable discharge regardless of time served.
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PO2 Ronnie Chandler
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Forced to complete if I had not had that I would have quit which would have been terrible
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