Posted on Mar 23, 2016
Should veterans and retirees be "Triple Dipping?"
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We hear about how all these Vets are triple dipping, but I don't think people are educated on how hard it actually is to do this, and how very small of a percentage of people can qualify to do this.
You have to meet all of these requirements: Serve over 20 years, receive a 50% or more VA Rating, be deemed unemployable or 100% disabled by the VA, AND qualify for SSI benefits.
You have to meet all of these requirements: Serve over 20 years, receive a 50% or more VA Rating, be deemed unemployable or 100% disabled by the VA, AND qualify for SSI benefits.
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Why not.... you earned it. Now there are some con jobs that need to be put in jail. Especially those 100%er's that are not disabled.
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The amount from VA is actually meant to help the vet meet their needs, as if you are triple dipping, you in such condition, you cannot work. That’s why it’s not considered income. SSDI is difficult to get, so if you qualify; you have been deemed unemployable (it does get reported as income, and can be taxed in some circumstances). Then there’s your retired pay. Who could live on that? You have to work. So, if your so injured, you qualify for VA and SSDI benefits, good for you. We should thank these heroes, not shame them.
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If you "Retire" not for reason of physical disability regardless of the number of years served (15 year retirement as an example, but have conditions that permanently affect your life and that [are] compensated, and you get Social Security disability, That is not triple dipping if the Service Connected Disability because it is limited to service related injuries/disease. If the Social Security Disability is for Non Service Connected Disability, then you are not Triple Dipping when receiving Military Retirement even if you receive 100% for SC conditions. Reason, they are for separate conditions and the Retirement was EARNED.
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I will say this as nicely as I can. No one, and I mean no one,is getting over period! If you served long enough to retire then you EARNED it! Nobody gave it to any of us for free! And more often than not your body has taken chronic abuse in one form or another to merit your disability rating. I will say this as well, the VA doesn't hand out ratings percentages like they are candy either! You as the veteran literally have to prove your injury and substantiate it for the VA to allow your claim. If nothing else I say here is listened to LISTEN TO THIS: Soldiers get it in your medical record or the VA will have nothing to review when you put your claim in! Sucking it up and driving on is the reason your claims are low or rejected! The VA can only rate you for what they can read in your record. If you don't get seen at medical good luck claiming something not in your record. The VA doesn't give a shit if your back hurts or anything else unless it's in that medical record. Mark my words or suffer the long term headaches of proving your claim. Get hurt. Get seen by medical. Percentages of only a 10% difference are huge believe me! I know first hand. The VA trys to find ways not to pay you so don't give them that chance by getting it into your medical record! YOU'VE EARNED IT!
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I am rated 110%, and I actually quadruple dip, so if you qualify go for it, and don't feel guilty.
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I only take VA. I'm to wary of taking more than one, unless your getting retirement and VA. The problem is that the government can tell you 10 years dont the road that you were in fact not entitled to recieve X amount of dollars and order you to pay it all back. Seen it a million times so I just take my one
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I retired at 40%. I went into law enforcement and after a number of years I was medically retired at 51% with no repeats or overlaps. I received a letter from Social Security telling me I was not eligible for their disability. A few years later I gained another 10% from the VA and I started receiving concurrent receipt. I’m not sure how it will work with regular social security. Will advise in six months when I turn sixty-five.
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I'm a retiree, disabled vet rated 80% (permanent and total), medically relieved from federal employment due to service conned disabilities, and SSDI recipient. All three agencies told me I deserved it.
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If one is entitled to retired pay based on longevity (and reaches 60 if reserve retire) and has a VA rating of 50% or more, concurrent receipt is available but must be requested, The VA application is badly written and one can easily check the wrong box if the application will lead to 50% or better,
If one has a service issued medical retirement (active duty component retires a member based on medical), that retirement with less than 20 IS NOT AVAILABLE OF CONCURRENT RECEIPT. And, seldom is the VA equivalent more than the service retirement. None of this restricts access to VA care if desired, depending on level of percentages and service connections. (Yes, yes...,all kinds of scenarios can be thrown at this last para.)
What really kicks in nicely should one reach 100% is the dental care. I’ve had terrific success at the Seattle Center. There is also provision for dental care for those outside the mile/time of commute ranges.
In WASHINGTON STATE, 100% VA rating affords the vet free tags (no renewal required) for life and a refund of some of the regional excise taxes on the purchase of the vehicle.
If one has a service issued medical retirement (active duty component retires a member based on medical), that retirement with less than 20 IS NOT AVAILABLE OF CONCURRENT RECEIPT. And, seldom is the VA equivalent more than the service retirement. None of this restricts access to VA care if desired, depending on level of percentages and service connections. (Yes, yes...,all kinds of scenarios can be thrown at this last para.)
What really kicks in nicely should one reach 100% is the dental care. I’ve had terrific success at the Seattle Center. There is also provision for dental care for those outside the mile/time of commute ranges.
In WASHINGTON STATE, 100% VA rating affords the vet free tags (no renewal required) for life and a refund of some of the regional excise taxes on the purchase of the vehicle.
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I think this is the most unfair thing I know of. You work for it, you get it stolen by the government.
After I wrote that, I realized I should specify, "and it's not taxes".
Amongst all the various fucking idiots who "march on Washington" because there are really 48,976 genders or because society isn't even more skewed towards giving women everything and men nothing, and yet still allowing women to blow thier way to the top, why has there never been a march for this?
Because we are used to taking orders, not fighting authority, and, because there is a significant number of our own who maintain the belief that it is somehow cheating the system to receive both, individually earned payments, or that anyone who rates a disability is a fucking whiner.
I used to work with a retired Marine CSM who probably prayed to Chesty every night before counting bulldogs to go to sleep and dreaming of past glory. I admired the man, actually, I checked him out, his shit was real, it was 4 PH and IIRC the Silver Star. He had been at Khe San. He was, as best I could find out, a bonafide hero, no shit.
He was in his early '60's and could barely walk. I mean, he could walk and in fact run if he had to, but it was obvious it hurt him badly. The topic of disability came up. He said anyone not in a wheelchair shouldn't get one. In the discussion that followed, whiner came up a lot, as did many other pejoratives mainly of a racist nature--we are both white, and I won't repeat what he said, here, but a lot of it started with N and ended with the thought that black people work the system and he won't do that because it would make him as black as them. Really.
I lost all respect for this silly-assed reprehensible wannabe bully who no longer had the rank to make anyone listen to his stupidity.
For one thing, he made the mistake of assuming because I have a rather strong Southern accent and he knew where I was from, that I probably had at some point been a Klansman. Nope. My hatred is reserved for self-righteous bullies, in the main. Short, balding, rapidly aging idiots trying to prove how tough they still are at the expense of everyone they come into contact with who can't avoid them, specifically.
Idiots like him are why it happens. But, why do the rest of us stand for it?
After I wrote that, I realized I should specify, "and it's not taxes".
Amongst all the various fucking idiots who "march on Washington" because there are really 48,976 genders or because society isn't even more skewed towards giving women everything and men nothing, and yet still allowing women to blow thier way to the top, why has there never been a march for this?
Because we are used to taking orders, not fighting authority, and, because there is a significant number of our own who maintain the belief that it is somehow cheating the system to receive both, individually earned payments, or that anyone who rates a disability is a fucking whiner.
I used to work with a retired Marine CSM who probably prayed to Chesty every night before counting bulldogs to go to sleep and dreaming of past glory. I admired the man, actually, I checked him out, his shit was real, it was 4 PH and IIRC the Silver Star. He had been at Khe San. He was, as best I could find out, a bonafide hero, no shit.
He was in his early '60's and could barely walk. I mean, he could walk and in fact run if he had to, but it was obvious it hurt him badly. The topic of disability came up. He said anyone not in a wheelchair shouldn't get one. In the discussion that followed, whiner came up a lot, as did many other pejoratives mainly of a racist nature--we are both white, and I won't repeat what he said, here, but a lot of it started with N and ended with the thought that black people work the system and he won't do that because it would make him as black as them. Really.
I lost all respect for this silly-assed reprehensible wannabe bully who no longer had the rank to make anyone listen to his stupidity.
For one thing, he made the mistake of assuming because I have a rather strong Southern accent and he knew where I was from, that I probably had at some point been a Klansman. Nope. My hatred is reserved for self-righteous bullies, in the main. Short, balding, rapidly aging idiots trying to prove how tough they still are at the expense of everyone they come into contact with who can't avoid them, specifically.
Idiots like him are why it happens. But, why do the rest of us stand for it?
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