Posted on Mar 23, 2016
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We hear about how all these Vets are triple dipping, but I don't think people are educated on how hard it actually is to do this, and how very small of a percentage of people can qualify to do this.

You have to meet all of these requirements: Serve over 20 years, receive a 50% or more VA Rating, be deemed unemployable or 100% disabled by the VA, AND qualify for SSI benefits.
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MSgt Steven Harris
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First off who came up with the terms double dipping on compensation pay? I can tell you that the funding for each of the so-called dipping into government funds is different in each area of the veteran and retirees payments. So each area has its own set of parameters for qualification, which is reviewed totally different officials prior to entitlements being paid.
If a individual serves their 20 yrs of service or gets a medical waiver for retirement due to injuries on the job by a military medical review board with 16yrs or more, it is a earned pension, for their lifetime, of which disability is service related and is not relevant to what a VA council gives as a VA disability rating after service of any number of years. The government owes both portions for the service given by contracts.
Next is the VA rating and compensation system payment process, which most do not know is deducted from your retirement pay, but not taxed, even though all the VA allocated funds approved by Congress each year are designated for after service care of veterans. How well that money is fairly distributed each presidential term is politically based and controlled by who runs the programs. So once again, the idea of getting extra compensation is not consistent across the branches or to each state or region. Some regions have better programs and medical benefits & facilities for their veterans than others. That is part of the problem with the VA system as a whole and how the veterans' programs are managed from Washington DC and hinders the best for our wounded soldiers.
Third is the misunderstanding that veterans who leave the service all go into government employee positions and collect another government employee pension check after 20 yrs of service in their new career. T with the his too is a earned paycheck in which taxes are and SS are collected from their pay for services rendered by contract. Which after 10 yrs at any job entitles a person who is injured on the job to file for 100% disability SSA. It is reviewed and qualifications are same for any American citizen. So in each situation of collecting payments from the US treasury, the person's conditions are different and must meet established requirements of those agencies in charge of the distribution of funds and some people are able to qualify due to their exceptional injuries during military service. The extra is to pay for their extra medical expenses and loss of abilities.
I am sure the disabled soldiers would rather work a regular job like others than have to live with TBI of physical losses or use of normal body functions and medical issues they endure each day! But jealous and uninformed civilians would not understand what relying on others for assistance means to a military disciplined and professionally soldier, whose first thoughts are mission first, death or being maimed in service is acceptable risk to protect and defend our nation. Personal desire and comfort are last things on our minds! People like to act like they are qualified experts know the truths but often times they lack experience in the subject and only know tiny parts.
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PO1 Frank Downs
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I remember when I joined the Navy in 1976 in boot camp we were told if we went to Sick call we could be charged with malingering, so needless to say most of us didn’t go for problems, if I did go it was take two Tylenol and hot/ice it.
When I retired nothing was in my record so I got zero, we put our bodies through hell and most of the damage will not present itself for decades and by that time your screwed
Report all your problems!!!!
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PO3 Dale Olson
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Why not.... you earned it. Now there are some con jobs that need to be put in jail. Especially those 100%er's that are not disabled.
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TSgt Kenneth Nutter
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The amount from VA is actually meant to help the vet meet their needs, as if you are triple dipping, you in such condition, you cannot work. That’s why it’s not considered income. SSDI is difficult to get, so if you qualify; you have been deemed unemployable (it does get reported as income, and can be taxed in some circumstances). Then there’s your retired pay. Who could live on that? You have to work. So, if your so injured, you qualify for VA and SSDI benefits, good for you. We should thank these heroes, not shame them.
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SSG Norbert Johnson
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If you "Retire" not for reason of physical disability regardless of the number of years served (15 year retirement as an example, but have conditions that permanently affect your life and that [are] compensated, and you get Social Security disability, That is not triple dipping if the Service Connected Disability because it is limited to service related injuries/disease. If the Social Security Disability is for Non Service Connected Disability, then you are not Triple Dipping when receiving Military Retirement even if you receive 100% for SC conditions. Reason, they are for separate conditions and the Retirement was EARNED.
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SFC David Hackett
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I will say this as nicely as I can. No one, and I mean no one,is getting over period! If you served long enough to retire then you EARNED it! Nobody gave it to any of us for free! And more often than not your body has taken chronic abuse in one form or another to merit your disability rating. I will say this as well, the VA doesn't hand out ratings percentages like they are candy either! You as the veteran literally have to prove your injury and substantiate it for the VA to allow your claim. If nothing else I say here is listened to LISTEN TO THIS: Soldiers get it in your medical record or the VA will have nothing to review when you put your claim in! Sucking it up and driving on is the reason your claims are low or rejected! The VA can only rate you for what they can read in your record. If you don't get seen at medical good luck claiming something not in your record. The VA doesn't give a shit if your back hurts or anything else unless it's in that medical record. Mark my words or suffer the long term headaches of proving your claim. Get hurt. Get seen by medical. Percentages of only a 10% difference are huge believe me! I know first hand. The VA trys to find ways not to pay you so don't give them that chance by getting it into your medical record! YOU'VE EARNED IT!
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SMSgt Willard Chatham
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I am rated 110%, and I actually quadruple dip, so if you qualify go for it, and don't feel guilty.
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CPL Sarah Stilwell
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I only take VA. I'm to wary of taking more than one, unless your getting retirement and VA. The problem is that the government can tell you 10 years dont the road that you were in fact not entitled to recieve X amount of dollars and order you to pay it all back. Seen it a million times so I just take my one
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MSgt Charles Smith
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I retired at 40%. I went into law enforcement and after a number of years I was medically retired at 51% with no repeats or overlaps. I received a letter from Social Security telling me I was not eligible for their disability. A few years later I gained another 10% from the VA and I started receiving concurrent receipt. I’m not sure how it will work with regular social security. Will advise in six months when I turn sixty-five.
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TSgt Jose A. D.
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I'm a retiree, disabled vet rated 80% (permanent and total), medically relieved from federal employment due to service conned disabilities, and SSDI recipient. All three agencies told me I deserved it.
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