Posted on Mar 23, 2016
Should veterans and retirees be "Triple Dipping?"
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We hear about how all these Vets are triple dipping, but I don't think people are educated on how hard it actually is to do this, and how very small of a percentage of people can qualify to do this.
You have to meet all of these requirements: Serve over 20 years, receive a 50% or more VA Rating, be deemed unemployable or 100% disabled by the VA, AND qualify for SSI benefits.
You have to meet all of these requirements: Serve over 20 years, receive a 50% or more VA Rating, be deemed unemployable or 100% disabled by the VA, AND qualify for SSI benefits.
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I retired from the Army with 70% combat related which the VA bumped up to 100%. I also get CRSC pay for Combat Injures. I served 10yrs in the Marine Corps 81 - 91, then Police 92 - 07. I joined the Army in 07 -15 full Retirement 100% after the VA. I also get my Police Retirement for 15yrs so yes I am dipping as much as I can as much as I deserve. I don’t care what a VET collects while Congress can serve just 4yrs and collect 100% and Medical. While lazy people refuse to return to work after COVID because the Democrats are paying them more money to stay home. If you are retiring or a VET use every benefit the military or VA has to offer. Why because the lazy people will suck up all the money and benefits if you don’t.
My opinion......don’t worry about what retirees are doing. They did their time and we all have circumstances that we deal with. I suggest you worry about your own affairs and when you get to your 20 and time for you to retire and have to make life changing decisions on how your going to make it after the military then you’ll have your answer.....
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If you’ve worked and earned a retirement then you deserve those retirement benefits. It’s no one else’s business how many retirements you’ve earned.
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Been out of touch. Will someone explain the term "triple dipping?" Out of touch means that I am an old dog that doesn't have the cure for everything but I will try and give my opinion on all things be they liked or disliked. On top I will say if you are entitled to some money, go get it don't wait for it to come to you. I haven't been posting in a long long time but now I'm baaaaack!
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1. If you retire from service and then get a va rating the amount of the va rating is less than your pension you get the difference of your pension from service ie: full pension = 1050.00, va disability = 900.00 you get 150.00 taxable payment from service and 900.00 non-taxable disability payment from va.
This is what I get numbers are examples not real numbers
2. If your va payment is more than your retirement amount eg 1500.00 you will not get retired pay from service you will get the 1500.00 non-taxable va disability payment.
3. If you become unemployable because other condition/injury not service connected you can apply for sis/ssa like any other person and amount paid from ssi/ssa will be based on contributions to ssa or other rules from ssa
So yes you may get three checks from govt but you still only get the equivalent of your full retirement if you get checks for retirement pay and va disability plus social security check not triple dipping getting equivalent of retirement and social security or if disability is more then retirement then just va disability and social security
Last I heard you can draw social security and a military pension
That was how it was explained to me when I got my ca rating
This is what I get numbers are examples not real numbers
2. If your va payment is more than your retirement amount eg 1500.00 you will not get retired pay from service you will get the 1500.00 non-taxable va disability payment.
3. If you become unemployable because other condition/injury not service connected you can apply for sis/ssa like any other person and amount paid from ssi/ssa will be based on contributions to ssa or other rules from ssa
So yes you may get three checks from govt but you still only get the equivalent of your full retirement if you get checks for retirement pay and va disability plus social security check not triple dipping getting equivalent of retirement and social security or if disability is more then retirement then just va disability and social security
Last I heard you can draw social security and a military pension
That was how it was explained to me when I got my ca rating
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20 years and retired (11 active, 9 reserve and guard).
70% service-conncted medical.
Currently teaching, can retire at 62 (10 years from now).
At 65 years old, I will draw VA pension, military retirement, teacher retirement, which I earned through my labor,, AND Social Security which I earned and paid into for 50 years.
If anyone doesn't like that I'm "quadruple dipping" they can kiss my butt.
70% service-conncted medical.
Currently teaching, can retire at 62 (10 years from now).
At 65 years old, I will draw VA pension, military retirement, teacher retirement, which I earned through my labor,, AND Social Security which I earned and paid into for 50 years.
If anyone doesn't like that I'm "quadruple dipping" they can kiss my butt.
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Tripple dip? Hell the va can't find my record from 50 years ago for Agent Orange. My DD214 means nothing till I can produce my records that they have. Got to love it, I must be GI#10, thank you!
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SGM Dawson, if you are as in much discomfort as you indicate and can support those assertions administratively via how I tell you to do it. I am pretty confident I may be able assist. I am quite confident if you are rated at 40% and if you are worse now then when originally rated you can successfully apply for an increase. At 50% you then qual under CDRP and you get the full amount. At any rate, you have nothing to lose accept a little time and effort with documentation. I offer no guarantees except that I will do my best and frankly I’m pretty good at what I do. I am a VFW service officer, post 12163 Perth, Australia. (Yes we US expat veterans are like rats and roaches - we are everywhere) and as As a VSO the VFW do not charge a penny. I handle paperwork cases from primarily in Australia and New Zealand but also get the inquiries from places where are there are no dedicated veteran resources. I’m helping veterans currently with initial claims, increases and appeals from places like India, Sri Lanka, South Africa, Kenya, Tanzania, Malta. My area is wide and diverse but actual case load is really low compared to one of my peers in a place like Chicago or Los Angeles. I even get inquiries from there in the US since I have a (relatively) low case load. I’m not pitching anything for financial gain- I do this as a volunteer. I’ll throw the offer out to anyone on this forum. We can have an initial discussion via Skype etc and I’ll tell you in 10 minutes if I think there are reasonable grounds for an increase or even additional claims. I do this 3 or 4 times a month. As an observation (not as a criticism) I am surprised how little even senior NCO’s and officers know upon separation regarding their Title 38 entitlements. Fair enough I’m happy to assist. Another thing, I suggest EVERYONE who is a veteran get their entitlements squared away before they pass on. Survivors benefits for burials and DIC (dependent indemnity compensation) are the saddest thing I deal with. Because you did not know how to secure it all in a sock, how do you expect your grieving widow to know who to talk to and know what to ask for? This post has turned into a rambling commentary. My apologies if I have lost the plot on the original point of your post or if I seem to have hijacked your comment SGM Dawson.
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What you make by “triple Dipping” is a lot less than welfare and others get just by crossing our border. Nothing against anyone but show some respect For ALL veterans. No veteran should suffer, be homeless, go hungry or be without mental/physical health.
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If the soldier is getting SSI, plus his disability, he is NOT "living large"! I retired as a civilianbut have a 30%service connected disability, and a modest IRA, plus my SSA. The 3 together are still under $1,900/mo.
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