Posted on Dec 2, 2014
Should Veterans receive special treatment in Court after committing a crime?
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In most states, the Court is recognizing Veterans that have committed a crime and offering a different type of program to them. (In line with the probation that they may already be granted). How do the masses feel about it?
I understand the specialized need for treatment for certain Veterans and that everyone should be treated as an individual, on a case by case basis, which I hope is how this would be carried out by all, but for those with significant criminal histories, should they get the specialized options?
I understand the specialized need for treatment for certain Veterans and that everyone should be treated as an individual, on a case by case basis, which I hope is how this would be carried out by all, but for those with significant criminal histories, should they get the specialized options?
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Yes, after serving the country a veteran deserves all the govt can afford to give him/her. Being a veteran or soldier is a much different thing than being some Joe on the street civilian. A veteran should be treated special in the eyes of the court and the govt.
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I have always felt that rule of law should always prevail. I have seen a disturbing attitude among service members the by putting on the uniform we some how become "holy". We have each chosen this path in life, being a member of any of the armed service does not in any way excuse criminal behavior or immoral choices. As Members and Veterans of the Armed Forces, we need to hold our selves to a standard deserving of the honor given to us by the citizens of this country, and when we fail to do that the full weight of the law should be applied.
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SMSgt Healy, I appreciate your comments and for introducing me to what the Veterans Court requires of those who pass through your doors. I need to educate myself on the Veterans Court, this being the first place I have heard of it.
I do support leniency for an individual who seeks out help with problems that they have and readily accepts correction. Such a person is far less of a threat to others and them selves then those who except no responsibility for their actions.
I do support leniency for an individual who seeks out help with problems that they have and readily accepts correction. Such a person is far less of a threat to others and them selves then those who except no responsibility for their actions.
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It would really depend upon the Offense and the Circumstances surrounding the crime. If you were in Clarksville TN, and want to sleep in your car after you leave a bar, should you be charged with a DUI? But, if you beat someone to a Bloody Pulp while in a drunken stupor, then yes. If you're sober and beat someone to a pulp while having flash backs, then there maybe something more to the story and another way to handle to problem
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No one, I mean absolutely, no one should receive any kind of special treatment after committing a crime. The justice system needs to remain unbiased towards everyone regardless of any kind of status, race, sex, or creed that they might be. The justice system should remain blind to these things.
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PO2 Jeffrey Sheibels
SSgt Shane Karst - My comment was straight to the point and I felt that I didn't need to elaborate much on it. Besides why are you coming after me like this after it was posted for two months?
If one group of people get special treatment and another group sees that. Then that group will want to be treated the same way. And so on and so on....This would make the legal system completely useless because no one would be held accountable and punished for their actions. Judges would have a tougher time rendering their verdict because of the person who broke the law belongs to a special group and needs to be treated differently. Everyone should be treated the same way when it comes to the legal system. The Justice system MUST remain blind to the "condition" of the person who committed the crime. What you are implying is that you should be treated differently because of PTSD. Your using a condition as an excuse to get away with committing crimes. If people with PTSD start getting special treatment and are not found guilty because of it. Others will see it. They will start using PTSD as an excuse for committing crimes. This would bring about a dangerous world where a group of people can do whatever they want regardless of the law. If you stop holding people accountable for their actions then you will end up with a society of complete chaos. No one will give a damn about any laws because they would know they could just say that they have a condition that gets special treatment in court and are usually found not guilty and freed because of the condition.
For people like yourself who want special treatment, it brings up another question. What is your real motive behind wanting special treatment? The people I know, who are very intelligent people, generally don't want others to know about their condition because they want to be treated like a regular person. Hell, I even know someone who has a disability placard and doesn't use it. He got it because of his PTSD. Does he use it? No, he doesn't. Why do you want to be singled out in a way that will make people look at you differently? Are you really just looking for attention? This also brings me back to my question earlier. Why are you just now commenting on a post that is 2 months old? Seems like someone wants some attention.
If one group of people get special treatment and another group sees that. Then that group will want to be treated the same way. And so on and so on....This would make the legal system completely useless because no one would be held accountable and punished for their actions. Judges would have a tougher time rendering their verdict because of the person who broke the law belongs to a special group and needs to be treated differently. Everyone should be treated the same way when it comes to the legal system. The Justice system MUST remain blind to the "condition" of the person who committed the crime. What you are implying is that you should be treated differently because of PTSD. Your using a condition as an excuse to get away with committing crimes. If people with PTSD start getting special treatment and are not found guilty because of it. Others will see it. They will start using PTSD as an excuse for committing crimes. This would bring about a dangerous world where a group of people can do whatever they want regardless of the law. If you stop holding people accountable for their actions then you will end up with a society of complete chaos. No one will give a damn about any laws because they would know they could just say that they have a condition that gets special treatment in court and are usually found not guilty and freed because of the condition.
For people like yourself who want special treatment, it brings up another question. What is your real motive behind wanting special treatment? The people I know, who are very intelligent people, generally don't want others to know about their condition because they want to be treated like a regular person. Hell, I even know someone who has a disability placard and doesn't use it. He got it because of his PTSD. Does he use it? No, he doesn't. Why do you want to be singled out in a way that will make people look at you differently? Are you really just looking for attention? This also brings me back to my question earlier. Why are you just now commenting on a post that is 2 months old? Seems like someone wants some attention.
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SSgt Shane Karst
I just got alerted to your comment. You can thank RallyPoint for that. I don't need special attention. The whole problem is people making decisions such as the other that responded to you without really understanding what is needed. In order to understand, you must walk in the shoes. The evidence of what really works is demonstrated, but it takes actually looking into it to see it. You are basing your opinion upon what? I don't want special treatment. I haven't violated the law and I'm harder on myself than anyone. Comments like yours irritate me, because you aren't honest enough to simply admit you shouldn't be weighing in.
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PO2 Jeffrey Sheibels
Welcome to the internet. Where everyone can give their opinion on anything at any time. I get irritated about things that are out of my control, but I have been working to just ignore the things I don't control and live my life.
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SSgt Shane Karst
PO2 Jeffrey Sheibels - Yeah, our last election showed the power of that foolish mindset. Grow up and get informed before giving your opinion.
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