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I have seen many SPC's promoted to SGT without any WLC and they seem vastly under prepared for leadership. Do you think that WLC should be attended before a SPC is eligible to make SGT?
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Edited 12 y ago
Posted 12 y ago
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A short answer, no.
Longer answer: SPC should be the pre-requisite for CPL (sort of like a E-4a/E-4b) with CPL being the pre-requisite for attending a promotion board.
My problem is with the rank of SPC. Too many people get the rank by simply having a degree or simply sitting at AIT(like myself) and hitting the automatic promotion TIS pre-req. CPL should be earned based on merit and the ability to lead.
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I haven't taken WLC yet, as I was just promoted to SPC... But honestly, I don't think a soldier should have to take WLC, especially if they have deployed. A deployment should be training enough. Isn't that how the "old army" used to be?
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As a combat veeran and young SPC, did your deployment train you on how your NCOER should look? How to properly conduct PT? Have you had to counsel Soldiers yet? And if so, is it being done correctly?
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Because that's super applicable to combat..... Wait isn't that the army's purpose?
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SFC Kayla Sondrol
I was on a combat tour and I learned squat on how to write awards, memos and other stuff (which is taught at WLC). The only thing a combat deployment might help with is garrison leadership, tactical leadership, land nav and maybe a few others.
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Depending where you are at I have heard that you will not be recommended to the board if you don't have WLC. I have seen SSG's getting promoted while in WLC.
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SGM (Join to see)
I think it should be a standard and that is an easy fix. All the 1SG or CSM have to do is write up a standard/policy letter and have the boss sign it. Boom instant standard in that unit.
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Not necessarily, granted if they are able to attend WLC sure let them go but don't deprive that young SPC who's in Afghanistan serving as that squad leader of getting promoted
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We all know the 13 year combined wars has made us relax our NCOES standards but making it a requirement would make a lot of Soldiers want to go since they won't get paid until they graduate.
It may seem unfair to some but I would rather see Soldiers fighting to get to NCOES to get promoted instead of having open season and having NCOs with 4-5 years TIG without the proper NCOES.
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