Posted on Jun 29, 2015
SMA pushes for black socks, headphones with PT uniform. Your thoughts?
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http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/2015/06/29/dan-dailey-pushes-black-socks-headphones-pt/29290285/
I don't have a dog in this hunt anymore. I am just curious what you all think.
I don't have a dog in this hunt anymore. I am just curious what you all think.
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I wish SMA or whoever is in charge of the uniform panel would let go of the "no logo" policy. Any quality sock (regardless of black or white) usually has a logo on it - but we're not authorize to wear it. Meanwhile, I've seen every shade of running shoe and their crazy logos.
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Well as for black socks, I read it as possibly allowing it (i.e. White or black). So really not that big a deal or change, just an option.
IRT Headphones. I read "not a chance".
IRT Headphones. I read "not a chance".
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I have no issue with black socks, I think it'll look better than Soldiers walking around in dingy, dirty socks. IT goes with the rest of the new PT uniform. I really have no issue with wearing headphones while in the gym or on a closed track while conducting individual workouts. Music gets people motivated and helps time go by when you're running, lifting weights, etc.
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I don't have a problem with making black socks optional, but I don't want to be forced to get them.
Headphones at gyms makes sense, since you can wear them in civvies.
Headphones at gyms makes sense, since you can wear them in civvies.
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Who cares what you wear really? Maybe something to consider with weather relation. You are so sweaty anyway, shouldn't be an issue except for weather relation and health.
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The color doesn't matter; most units I've been in had black unit PT shirts already. I'm glad the new uniform is made out of improved materials with an improved fit. I've already got black PT socks for when I work out in civilian gear. I'll wear what I'm told to, couldn't care less.
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While a lot of changes have been made by SMA Dailey since he took office, and he seems to actually be listening to what the Soldiers have to say, unlike IMO SMA Chandler, most of this is "fluff". Until the Army gets back to the business at hand and allows it's young NCOs to train their Soldiers, like we did before GWOT, all of this is "...putting lipstick on a pig." For my son's sake and that of the younger generation of Soldier, I do hope that the Army is done with changing uniforms which place a financial burden on them no matter how you slice it and they can get back to the business at hand.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
SFC William Swartz Jr Thank you for your reply SFC Swartz. You make some valid points. Not that I think SMA Chandler was the best SMA while I was in, at least he did get rid of the black beret (unless in a ceremony) and we were able to sew our rank and badges back on. Raiders First!
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SFC William Swartz Jr
SGM Steve Wettstein yes I will begrudgingly acknowledge that he did do away with the beret for everyday wear and allow for rank/badges to be sewn back on...he just always seemed to be an arrogant SOB that failed to "remember where he came from", but having seen/known him prior to him ascending to the post of SMA, that is how he always came across. Just an observation from a retired, old tanker....Raiders First!
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I dont really care about black socks, I mean Great for those who really wanted them. It will look a heck of alot better than dirty white socks. I havent paid to much attention but most black socks I see for sale have logos. I dont even know why the wearing of headphones in the gym should be a discussion. In reality, who gets to use the gym during PT hours anyways? When I was deployed it wasnt a problem, why is it now?
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Took less than 5 months
It's official, black socks with PT's! | RallyPoint
It's official, black socks are now authorized with PT's.http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/2015/11/06/army-approves-black-socks-pt-uniforms/75169688/
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