Posted on Jun 29, 2015
SGM Steve Wettstein
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http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/2015/06/29/dan-dailey-pushes-black-socks-headphones-pt/29290285/

I don't have a dog in this hunt anymore. I am just curious what you all think.
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1SG Vet Technician
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It should be made clear that the SMA is talking about headphone use only WHILE IN GYM FACILITES. Although I would love to be able to wear mine while taking APFT..I like having music to keep my focus and set a pace. Having said that, I know many who run the test with their phones for a timer...no reason why they can't play music through the device speakers.
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The fact that this is an issue on the SMA's agenda strikes me as sad, given the fact that we have a shrinking force, a shrinking budget, and a growing number of security issues throughout the world. We have a ridiculous number of SHARP issues, serious concerns about the quality of leadership across the force, discussions about major changes to benefits for Soldiers and families, and a renewed focus on direct action fights that is going to require major retraining throughout every formation in the Army, AND YET we care about the color of socks people wear during PT? Yes, it's nice that Soldiers will be able to wear headphones at the gym - but why is this not a garrison commander issue that gets resolved with five minutes of memo-typing?

I appreciate that SMA Dailey is working to reduce the everyday suck and put a check on some of the rampant stupidity, but this isn't an issue worthy of his attention when there is so much else of concern in the Army.
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CW5 Regimental Chief Warrant Officer
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So while it is nice to see that he is trying to ease the suck a bit I think he needs to let other issues be high profile and let these just be icing on the cake.
Since he doesn't do PRT for his personal training regimen, is he going do address what he sees is wrong with it?
Are we going to have a new APFT anytime soon and in what form will it take?
Most of all, how to enforce the top driven mandates he sets. We all know there will be more than one or two commanders/CSMs that will take exception to his decision to have a period of mix and match with uniforms. There will also be those who are butt hurt about letting a Joe/Jane listen to music while walking on the treadmill.
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SFC Maury Gonzalez
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So you will be seeing some troops wearing bright red beats headsets, very professional
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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SFC Maury Gonzalez Thank you for your reply SFC Gonzalez. At most installations, Soldiers are already able to wear headphones why doing PT in gyms.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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I don't remember the survey, but did they think about just changing the materials and keeping the same style instead of changing everything?
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SGM- I took the survey, from what I remember there were pictures of different variations. Then there were questions about the long sleeve/short sleeve/shorts and what material you would prefer. Im pretty sure that stay the same was an option. The survey was very detailed. If only we would have had that option with the ACU...
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SGT Bryon Sergent
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Well, I don't understand the black sock thing. Everyone says that they can't wear the green issue wool socks. Well they haven't been wool since the mid to late 90's. All they are is green over the calf tube socks. Makes no since. They are 100 percent cotton! same as the black just different color.
As far as the head phones. I like that Idea. would love to be able to run with the head phones in or at least just one as to be aware of my surroundings anyway.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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SGT Bryon Sergent Thank you for your reply SGT Sergent. Soldiers were never authorized to wear anything but white socks in PTs. It is against Army Regs to run with head phones on, in Army PTs or civilians PTs.
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SGT Bryon Sergent
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Yes I know SGM. Still in the Guard. Why would you want to run in BLACK SOCKS! thats just a hey look at me thing, to me!
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SGT Bryon Sergent
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LOL Far as uniforms for pt go. Hell lets change back to the Banana suits!
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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Those things were hideous. I am glad I only saw them in pictures.
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