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What small arms did you train in,(include them all) and during what era?
I'm looking for ITR/AIT training not a specialized MOS weapons system.
I'm curious how this has changed over the years among the branches.
I once taught a class in the .30 MG 1917 to MACV because it had gone out of their inventory.
I'm looking for ITR/AIT training not a specialized MOS weapons system.
I'm curious how this has changed over the years among the branches.
I once taught a class in the .30 MG 1917 to MACV because it had gone out of their inventory.
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I'm heavy into small arms training right now. A dozen hours a day, 7 days a week in many different situations. My 18 month old has very small arms.
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During 1968-1993: 38, M-16, M-9. They tended to keep us flyers away from small arms........ probably for valid reasons!
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1. BAR
2. 3.5" Rocket Launcher (Bazooka)
3. M1919 .30 cal Light Machine gun
4. M60 machine gun
5. LAAW (instruction only)
6. Rifle Propelled Grenades (instruction only)
7. Incendiary Grenades (instruction only)
8. Det Cord and blasting caps (instruction only)
9. C3 and C4 plastique (instruction only)
10. Carried an M1 Garand (Thumb Buster) ((Carried M14 in Boot))
11. M79 Grenade Launcher
12. M26 Grenade
13. M106 Recoiless Rifle (instruction only)
14. 60 and 81 mm Motars (instruction only)
15. M2 .50 Cal
16 Claymore (instruction only)
Went through ITR in Dec 65, San Onefre, Camp Pendleton, CA.
2. 3.5" Rocket Launcher (Bazooka)
3. M1919 .30 cal Light Machine gun
4. M60 machine gun
5. LAAW (instruction only)
6. Rifle Propelled Grenades (instruction only)
7. Incendiary Grenades (instruction only)
8. Det Cord and blasting caps (instruction only)
9. C3 and C4 plastique (instruction only)
10. Carried an M1 Garand (Thumb Buster) ((Carried M14 in Boot))
11. M79 Grenade Launcher
12. M26 Grenade
13. M106 Recoiless Rifle (instruction only)
14. 60 and 81 mm Motars (instruction only)
15. M2 .50 Cal
16 Claymore (instruction only)
Went through ITR in Dec 65, San Onefre, Camp Pendleton, CA.
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Navy, 2000. None.
I finally got to qualify with a Sig 228 about 4 years into my enlistment and that was first time I had ever used a firearm.
I finally got to qualify with a Sig 228 about 4 years into my enlistment and that was first time I had ever used a firearm.
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Cpl Dennis F.
I totally agree. At least with Marines I knew that if they were breaching the wire, I could hit the mess or comm shack and yell "get your shit", and I would have some flak jacketed, steel potted bodies that could manipulate a M14/M16 and kill their ass. It came close a few times. We once lost a few cooks sent out as reactionaries to re-enforce an OP in dire straights......like I said.....just sad.
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PO2 (Join to see)
In the interest of full disclosure I did join during the Clinton administration. Also, I was a naval aviation maintainer, so my rate didn't require it either. I deployed to the Arabian Gulf on a ship whose only defense was a Marine react team that OC sprayed each other for Christmas. I did get lots of firefighting training though.
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Cpl Dennis F.
PO2 (Join to see) Still sad...but I will hand it to you on the fire fighting. I took a VIP cruise on the Iwo Jima and saw a few fire drills. You guys work your ass off. I was VERY impressed!
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On an up note, I heard the Navy has fixed that issue not long after I went through boot. I just had bad timing in my enlistment to get small arms training.
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Let's see...
Qualified with M16A1, M203, M60, M14, and MG3.
Fam-fired M1911A1, P1, Uzi, M3A1, L1A1, M2HB, and AKM.
Just a normal assortment for an 11C.
Qualified with M16A1, M203, M60, M14, and MG3.
Fam-fired M1911A1, P1, Uzi, M3A1, L1A1, M2HB, and AKM.
Just a normal assortment for an 11C.
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1LT William Clardy
Honestly, Cpl Dennis F., I was disappointed. I prefer a slight muzzle-heavy balance and the Uzi felt muzzle-light. The L2A3 felt good, and the guys who got to fire it really liked the way it shot.
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Cpl Dennis F.
Never fired a Sterling, which is surprising. A friend of mine in Geneva has a vault of about 36 MGs. When I visit, it is playtime. Suppressed Uzi has the balance you are looking for. Hands down the finest SMG I ever fired is the HK MP5SD. A whisper of bolt clatter and then the bullet impacts, no muzzle report whatsoever. So sorry that I will never be able to own one.
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1LT William Clardy
Cpl Dennis F., aside from the "looks cool" factor and the less expensive ammunition, I'd just as soon shoot an M16/M16A1 or an AR-18/AR-180 -- they're not significantly heavier (if you count the ammo weight, they're actually ligher), they have a similarly minimal recoil, and they're much more lethal a lot farther out.
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Cpl Dennis F. In 2008 all Marine Officers were trained hands-on in: MCMAP (Tan belts at TBS including empty hands, rifles as melee weapons, bayonets), M9 pistol, M-16 A4 rifle, M-249 SAW, M-203 40mm GL, M67 Fragmentation grenade, M240-B MMG, M2 HMG, Mk19 AGL, C-4 explosives, AT-4 rocket launcher (trainer). They were instructed in and provided demonstrations (and specific volunteers executed) AT-4 Live, Claymore mines, thermite grenades, 60 MM Mortars, 81MM mortars, 155MM Howitzers, I realized partway through I had exceeded small arms, but this is still all at TBS so all of us got it, also, you mentioned MGs in the OP so I guess I'm not too far off your topic. There was more at Infantry Officer's Course and Scout Sniper Platoon Commander's Course, but you asked us to leave out MOS specifics.
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Capt Richard I P.
Sgt Packy Flickinger Sorry if it was unclear, that fell in the category of "demonstrations and select individuals executed" we are heavily trained in Call For Fire (CFF) and Fire Support Planning (FSP), but the fire direction center and gun-line training is just a few hours of demonstration, observation and a lanyard pull or two.
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Cpl Dennis F.
Video 08 25 May 09, 04h04pm 175 arty
1st Tanks 1967-68 RVN Army 175mm
That's good enough for me. I lived less than 50 yards from one for about a week of constant fire missions. I'd have liked to yank their lanyard......right out of the perimeter.
Just for you Capt Richard I P. see the front end of my clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQB7ytRooIk
Just for you Capt Richard I P. see the front end of my clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQB7ytRooIk
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Capt Richard I P.
Cpl Dennis F. Those guns cure can get noisy.
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A related topic, clearly most of us in the military already have significant training in weapons handling. Come support the right of the armed forces to be armed!: http://www.rallypoint.com/answers/arm-the-armed-forces
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Desert Storm era.
First weapon in basic was M16A1, good ol Vietnam holdover; along with the regular stuff like grenades and claymores. Then in AIT, M16A2. Permanent station I was the AG for the M-60, then took over as gunner later; I also qualified with M2 just before we deployed.
In the reserves I qualified with the M-9 and again with the M-60. They took away my M-60 and replaced it with the MK-19.
I always wanted to qual with the 1911 (CO and First Sergeant carried them) and the .38 (tankers) but it wasn't in my lane.
First weapon in basic was M16A1, good ol Vietnam holdover; along with the regular stuff like grenades and claymores. Then in AIT, M16A2. Permanent station I was the AG for the M-60, then took over as gunner later; I also qualified with M2 just before we deployed.
In the reserves I qualified with the M-9 and again with the M-60. They took away my M-60 and replaced it with the MK-19.
I always wanted to qual with the 1911 (CO and First Sergeant carried them) and the .38 (tankers) but it wasn't in my lane.
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SPC David Wyckoff
I was a range monkey whenever possible. If they wanted volunteers for range duty, I was the first in line. Go to the range, be outdoors, shoot other peoples ammo and get paid for it? Yes please.
I got to shoot and familiarize with lots of weapons but I only listed the things I actually shot for qualification.
Not that it is related but I recently obtained a genuine surplus leather shoulder holster in excellent condition with my old unit embossed on the holster. Now I'm trying to find an original military surplus Colt 1911 and two mags to go in it.
I got to shoot and familiarize with lots of weapons but I only listed the things I actually shot for qualification.
Not that it is related but I recently obtained a genuine surplus leather shoulder holster in excellent condition with my old unit embossed on the holster. Now I'm trying to find an original military surplus Colt 1911 and two mags to go in it.
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