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<p>This thread has gone way off course, so I am re-addressing the wording, making this thread as neutral as possible. I hope this can engage open conversation, and less of an hostile environment. </p><p> </p><p>What are your views on Edward Snowden being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize? Other candiates in high regard are the Pope, and Putin. This year a record 278 people have been nominated, so it is no ones easy grab this year, outside looking in.</p>
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JOKE!! Really? I find it hard to believe that there isn't people more deserving then these two clowns.
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There are actually 276 other nominees.... However, the celebrity status will likely continue for both of these "clowns". I can just picture Snowdon winning it. Would be a good ploy by the global community... let's award a guy that created the largest information security breach in United States history, then maybe others from the U.S. will want to win glittery prizes and tell us more!!
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If you do not have intimate knowledge of this situation then you shouldn't be forming opinions and placing them on social media, especially as a Soldier. Snowden is a traitor and the farthest you can get from being a person worthy of admiration. He did a hell of a lot more than blow a damn whistle.
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<p>A resounding NO! What has he done to promote world peace? He betrayed his country; compromised our ability to gather and use intelligence; instigated contention with our allies, and now he's shacked up with our Cold War foes; people who still don't have our best interest at heart. </p><p><br></p><p>How has anything that he's done improved the geopolitical situation in any corner of the planet?</p>
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He's a trader. It should be our policy to treat him just as we would OBL.
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Actually yes he does deserve it for offering proof, not speculation, on what illegal activities the government is doing to its own citizenry, and I also believe that a lot of staff NCO's and officers should be ashamed for not being able to spell TRAITOR correctly. What did he actually betray? How did he actually effect national security in a dubious way? what was actually weakened? Our military strength is still the same, our intelligence is still the same. Our enemies friends enemy is still well aware we are watching and listening. the book 1984 was meant to be a warning not a blueprint and there is absolutely no call to mine data on citizens for no reason with out an actual court order. Those of you who signed up or have PCS's out should be ashamed of yourselves for denouncing this man who actually followed your oath to support and defend the constitution to the united states.
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Nothing snowden did was right or correct or patriotic.. he deserves nothing.. no he deserves to be taken out front and shot in the head to be made an example of. Nothing he did merits a noble prize of any form. Usually I do not post such extreme and graphic views on rallypoint as I do not think its the place for it. Snowden is the exception. He's a traitor and the CIA should take him out.
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LCpl Mark Lefler
What he exposed was methods used to catch people who were trying to harm Americans.
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Sgt Matthew O'Donnell
When the methods of saving Americans violates their 4th amendment right, that harms the nation. At that point those people you swore an oath to protect lose trust in the establishment. What Snowden did was wrong to a point, but without him Americans would still be clueless (and most still are) about how intelligence is gathered foreign and domestically. If we let our 4th amendment just get taken hostage, what other rights are you willing to lose for protection.<br>
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LCpl Mark Lefler
Dead people do not care about rights or the 4th amendment. Without what the nsa does, their would be a lot more dead people. You never hear about the terrorist attacks they stop, since they you know never happened.
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LCpl Mark Lefler
there is no other side, he was wrong period, beginning and end, nothing he can say can ever justify what he did.
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I think Snowden just confirmed what we already knew. Every country spies on each other that's just the way it is. If he wanted to do good by bringing these issues to light then he should have taken the proper channel to do so. Spilling secrets and then running to the "safety" of a country that has even less freedom and more human rights violations than we do is just beyond stupid to me. As far as the Nobel Peace Prize is concerned, the criteria is "to have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses." Snowden didn't do any of the aforementioned. Instead of "working for fraternity between nations" he further divided nations by putting out information that would interfere with trust. No head of state with a brain would think to reduce standing armies if they know we are tracking their every move etc. etc. etc....and to top it off, he ran to our enemies for help regardless of how politicians try to use nice words and PC, China and Russia are not our friends and don't have our nor his best interest in mind.
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Just the fact that he was a whistleblower makes him a hero in some eyes. Add on the sensitive material and he's a criminal in others eyes. What he did was wrong, to a point. But if this had never happened, what other was of gathering intelligence would be taken. It's terrible how he went about his business, but what is stopping the government from infringing on your 4th amendment right, and sweeping it under the rug. At least now we know whats going on. <br>
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