Posted on Apr 23, 2020
So in 2012 I was discharged from USMC w/ an OTH for drugs and a re code 4B. What are my chances of getting back in, specifically the Army?
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Do folks not know what Google is anymore? You could have found this answer out within 30 seconds on Google. Or....did you find the answer....not like it and wanted to see if someone would tell you what you wanted to hear?
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I think its a valid question, to what I am sure she knows the answer. She is probably hoping to see if there has been any recent exceptions.
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I agree with the others, your chances of getting back in are slim to none. Maybe that would not have been the case if you were asking this question 16 years ago. Now we are in a draw down of sorts where they do not have an urgent need for people. That makes a difference. The issue that the DOD sees is that they have minor drug issue already with people popping hot for it. You already proved once that you did it. They will look at the fact that prior to entry you were informed multiple times the severity of drug use once in.
You took a drug test at MEPS, you most likely took a drug test the day you arrived at basic training and you were routinely tested after the fact. We all have briefings and annual training on it and it should have been understood that using narcotics was not tolerable. That is how they are going to look at it. Lets say I am the approval authority. How can you convince me that you will never do it again if I approve your waiver? How do I know that if I let you back in that you will not have a lapse in judgement? Will you lose judgement, say you are out and about with friends and get intoxicated and someone lights a bowl and passes it around the room. How can I be assured other than your word that you will not lose that judgment and decide oh well I will take a small hit?
That is the way they are going to look at it. I hate say it, but there are irreversible consequences to our actions. There are things you do in life that close doors and lock them shut. Consider this, in some sense you are lucky. I know kids in the USAF that tried it once and got a summary court martial along with a bad conduct discharge. In some cases they had to do jail time for a few months. I would consider that fact as a second chance in life.
Perhaps you might be in a lucky few that may get back in, I don't know. If so good on you, best of luck.
You took a drug test at MEPS, you most likely took a drug test the day you arrived at basic training and you were routinely tested after the fact. We all have briefings and annual training on it and it should have been understood that using narcotics was not tolerable. That is how they are going to look at it. Lets say I am the approval authority. How can you convince me that you will never do it again if I approve your waiver? How do I know that if I let you back in that you will not have a lapse in judgement? Will you lose judgement, say you are out and about with friends and get intoxicated and someone lights a bowl and passes it around the room. How can I be assured other than your word that you will not lose that judgment and decide oh well I will take a small hit?
That is the way they are going to look at it. I hate say it, but there are irreversible consequences to our actions. There are things you do in life that close doors and lock them shut. Consider this, in some sense you are lucky. I know kids in the USAF that tried it once and got a summary court martial along with a bad conduct discharge. In some cases they had to do jail time for a few months. I would consider that fact as a second chance in life.
Perhaps you might be in a lucky few that may get back in, I don't know. If so good on you, best of luck.
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Pvt Irina Jones
I have many reference letters attesting to my character. And I’ve changed completely around. Even have a college degree and am doing good for myself. I’m hoping for the best.
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You have zero possibility of having your RE upgraded.
Re-4 is non waiverable
You have zero possibility of having your RE upgraded.
Re-4 is non waiverable
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They can’t send up a waiver until you have less then an RE-4. RE-4 is non-waiverable and with all due respect, if you did drugs in the Marines knowing it was wrong, I would never want you in my squad. Pvt Irina Jones
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Pvt Irina Jones
SSG (Join to see) I was young and dumb and it was a one time deal first of all. And I’m not sure why i filled out all the paperwork and stuff if they’re not allowed to do waivers for my code. I hope I’m not being dicked around...
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They are doing their due diligence so that you can’t say they didn’t try. They can’t get your RE changed, only you can. And even then, the Navy will not likely change it because your offense, regardless if it was a 1 time thing, warrants the code. I’m sorry but drugs are the fastest thing to get you disqualified from service. You made the conscious decision to do it, now you will pay the price.Pvt Irina Jones
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