Posted on Oct 7, 2015
So there I was, speech class on campus, in uniform. I got 5 points taken off my speech for not having on a "professional" attire. Fair?
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After reading all the comments I agree with your professor docking you five points for wearing your ACUs.... Note I said ACU because that is what your wore. As a professor I too would dock someone for wearing an ACU instead of the ASU. When making a presentation the ASU is the professional uniform to discuss military topics. You will never see a General, officer or any senior non commissioned officer go before a board or interview panal in public to make a speech in ACUs especially with civilians. You will see see them do so in ASUs. The ACU is a "professional work uniform" the ASU is the "professional" serviceable uniform. That is why many units are now wearing the ASU "class B" in garrison. I hate you lost 5 points but I hope you use this advice for future circumstances.
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Yep, this right here. Had the same thing happen and my class was ON base. I found time to change into "proper" attire prior to the next class. As a first-level supervisor, I would also permit my subs to take a few minutes towards the end of the duty day to change into appropriate attire for class. Talk to your Sgt and see what you can work out.
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This comment dovetails with why I am railing about the Army being the only service that regularly wears the combat uniform in public. I agree that Sgt de Los Santos should wear a dress uniform (ASU). However, the Army has virtually eliminated dress uniforms except for very formal situations. How many times have you seen a recruiter from other services wearing their field/combat uniform in public except for special displays of field equipment? Army recruiters are nearly always in ACUs. Thats is because their class B is terrible. (Even when the Army Green was still worn and the class B went to the green shirt, that was also a poor class B uniform; the Army started wearing the ACU as their everyday uniform. Most units even do awards ceremonies in ACUs. If the SGT were in any other service, I would have agreed to have SGT Del Los Rios be deducted the points, but the Army has developed a culture of wearing the ACU as an all-purpose uniform. Please develop a professional-looking Class B and require such wear by recruiters and office workers!
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You clearly haven't seen live interviews of the top out there. The most recent being CG SNOW with usarec. All the top wears ocp for interviews.
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Why on earth were you wearing your uniform? Trying to score some free "patriotism" points? There was no reason for you to wear it. I'm inclined to think the instructor was lenient.
I'm assuming you were wearing ACU's. That's a "work uniform", the equivalent of wearing mechanics coveralls. It most certainly isn't "professional attire".
I'm assuming you were wearing ACU's. That's a "work uniform", the equivalent of wearing mechanics coveralls. It most certainly isn't "professional attire".
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Sounds like someone who does not believe in our way of life was offended. Seems to be a lot of that going on lately. Even Christians are now going to jail for standing their ground regarding the religious and spiritual beliefs. There was a post on my Facebook page that some people were offended by a sign that state God Bless our troops. Every time I see these things I see the 14th amendment to our constitution is being used to twist what our original Constitution meant. Also make me understand what was said by Stallen I think, correct me if I am wrong, we will over throw the united states without firing a single shot using our Constitution and bill of rights against us. Make me wonder what is going on when a child can no longer pray, yet no one knows why there are so many slaying in schools. Makes me wonder why a veteran can't wear his uniform in a class with out someone being offended. Makes me wonder why we can't Publicly display God Bless our troops in America without being sued or offending someone.
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