Posted on Oct 31, 2016
CPT Aaron Kletzing
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Note: My friend Carlos is in the Coast Guard and sent me this question last night. He said he's not on RP due to OPSEC (whatever), so he asked me to ask this on RP on his behalf. He is pretty hell bent on getting this Soldier punished. Anyway, let him know your thoughts on the below.

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I’m in the Coast Guard and have been active duty for 6 years. I’m stationed in Hawaii right now. I was up by Schofield Barracks and went on base there, and went to go shop for a few things at the Commissary. I was waiting in line for some fresh meat and there were 2 Army soldiers also in line, in front of me. They were looking at me and saying things to each other. It looked like they were laughing at me. I heard one of them refer to me as a “POG” which is a slang term I am familiar with from social media stuff. I said to them “Excuse me, I heard what you just said, and I feel disrespected.” I was just trying to stick up for myself. One of the soldiers then squared up to me and said “Yeah, I did call you a POG. Because you are a POG. You need to up and leave here – this is an Army Commissary.” A few other people in line heard this and started laughing. I felt so angry that I just left the building.

I know the soldier’s last name from his top, and I would recognize his face. What actions can I take to report him to his chain of command? What other advice do you have?
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Col Joseph Lenertz
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While the army soldiers were disrespectful and childish, I don't think this rises to the level of disciplinary action beyond a counseling. Advice to Carlos: Rub against Army and Marines more often...it makes your skin grow thicker. You are a POG. So am I. I'm happy to NOT be a grunt, but so what? And it's NOT an Army commissary, it's a Defense Commissary (DeCA). Remind the grunt (non-POG) we're on the same team, and he should save his BS for the bad guys.
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LCpl Rich Vail
LCpl Rich Vail
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SSG Joseph Drinkhouse - A Marine is a rifleman, ALL Marines are riflemen. Therefore we beez special! Ergo sum, we beez = SpecFor/Rangers because REZUNZ!

/humour
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Col Joseph Lenertz
Col Joseph Lenertz
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SSG Stefan L - Yes, I am. And no, I wouldn't have strung them up the nearest pole. Sometimes, young-and-dumb is just young-and-dumb, and I don't need to go full flaming a55hole for every violation that has zero chance of getting anyone hurt or killed.
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SSG Stefan L
SSG Stefan L
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Col Lenertz, that is why you were Air Force and I was Cavalry. Different set of standards. No disrespect just the observed truth of my service. Animo Et Fide, Allons, GarryOwens, Golden Dragons.
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Col Joseph Lenertz
Col Joseph Lenertz
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SSG Stefan L - True, different application of standards, largely due to the different nature of the mission. Air Force needs to retain a larger portion of their population, so it treats them easier.
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SSG Retired!!!
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If anyone is offended by being called a POG, they seriously need to get thicker skin.
My advise, come up with some clever comebacks or carry some kleenex around.
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SSG John Eroh
SSG John Eroh
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I'm retired Army Signal Corps with time in Vietnam. Our response to those who gave us a hard time was either "Without commo a commander only commands his desk" or ask them how they thought that that air or artillery support got directions on where they were needed. We were told that it took 5 people to support 1 combat soldier which i'm sure it is still true today. The combat troops couldn't do their thing without us support folks. But rivalry between services or combat & support has been around for a long time & always will be. It is ok as long as it is a good matured give & take and can show pride in what we do. it takes all of us to get the job done. Even within the Signal Corps there was some rivalry between us fixed station (inter-base) communicators and the tactical guys.
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SSG Wesley McCarty
SSG Wesley McCarty
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My Cooks spent more time outside the wire in a combat zone than many of the grunts I know. Quit being a p*ssy Tell him to go f*ck himself.
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SPC Ron Salsbury
SPC Ron Salsbury
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SSG Hugh G. Rection - Hoorah SSG!! As a Medivac Crew Chief we heard it all. When a DUSTOFF is in bound with out machine guns blazing, that take more courage to come in and out of a fight. Secondly, GRUNT is an acronym for "Ground Replacement Usually Not Trained!" As an aviator, I am proud to think I have more brains not to be a GRUNT, AKA, "some mindless idiot," not worthy of training beyond, "here's a gun, go see if a landmine is over there."
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SPC Joel Alioto
SPC Joel Alioto
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I was the POG of Pogs, I was a cook in a combat arms unit and not jump qualified. But I treated people with respect and if some young one decided to disrespect me, in front of his buddies Their section got substandard service. Imagine 10 cases of the most hated MRE's, coffee that tasted like kool aid, kool aid that had coffee grounds in it? Then a meal of hot pizzas et, fresh pasties, real eggs etc. c. as I leave I say out loud in ear shot of the commanders, officers and senior nco's, "oh, I am a pog and not a real soldier like you fine men? Wash and repeat after the second or third time those men were burning human waste and I was treated like a man. Don't spit on your quartermaster corp guys, You will regret it.
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Col Rebecca Lorraine
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"Make me"? Challenge them to a duel and raise your dukes. Have them call the MPs and escort you out of the place. Make a big stinkie, kick them in the gonads, laugh in their face and tell them you have a contagious disease spread through body fluids. Beg them to hit you. Call "incoming" and run in while they figure out what that means. Call mom, she'll fix it.
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Col Rebecca Lorraine
Col Rebecca Lorraine
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Image of angry POG
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PO2 M. Shaheed Aadam
PO2 M. Shaheed Aadam
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Col Rebecca I like you already. I would have had a field day with those jokers. Hey we could go about this several which ways but I wouldn't back down like a wimp. hahahaha
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SFC Timothy Gruber
SFC Timothy Gruber
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Dueling is illegal, calling the MPs would have gotten an MP at most and probably the lowest ranking on on duty given the absolute childish nature of this call.
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SGT Joseph Cabra
SGT Joseph Cabra
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Lol, this comment made me second guess my opinion about women in Combat Arms.
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