Posted on May 30, 2015
Speaking of Staff Duty, how do you feel about retiring Soldiers exclusively making up the staff duty roster?
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NCO's placed on a rotational cycle of pulling Staff Duty. For the most part, it's based on available number of those retiring (small numbers = tight rotation). They pull it, virtually on a continuous basis, through weekends and holidays, around appointments, etc (i.e. day on, day or 2 off). I just wanted to know how the Rally Point Community felt about this, have any personal experience with it, and just general thoughts on it.
Do you applaud or frown upon this practice?
Do you applaud or frown upon this practice?
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I agree with it mainly because when done right it allows these senior NCOs the time needed to retire and transition. Be it medical or regular retirement, their time invested in the military takes more focus and preparations than a four year specialist transitioning into the civilian sector.
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SGT Nia Chiaraluce by looking at your profile, I see you have never retired, or gone through the transition process, so I feel you may not have a good understanding of it.
Doing a 24-hour shift every third day does not give you the time you need to retire. Yeah, you can schedule all your military appointments around that schedule, but the SM isn't the only one transitioning. There is numerous things that need to be done for the transitioning family, especially if they are leaving the area.
Let's not forget about the 72-hours a week extra you'd get to be away from your family because you have served in the Army long enough to be retirement eligible. But it's to help out the unit that no longer cares about you because you are on the lose roster. I guess that's just an added perk the recruiters and the Career Counselors never let me know about.
Doing a 24-hour shift every third day does not give you the time you need to retire. Yeah, you can schedule all your military appointments around that schedule, but the SM isn't the only one transitioning. There is numerous things that need to be done for the transitioning family, especially if they are leaving the area.
Let's not forget about the 72-hours a week extra you'd get to be away from your family because you have served in the Army long enough to be retirement eligible. But it's to help out the unit that no longer cares about you because you are on the lose roster. I guess that's just an added perk the recruiters and the Career Counselors never let me know about.
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We were pulling that shht 3x a week. I did it for 5 months. 3x a week. 44 total times in those five months (I counted).
I actually thought I was going to die doing that shht. That's how sickly I felt. I could see it in the eyes of the NCO I was relieving, too. Bloodshot eyes. Weight gain. Mental fatigue. I wouldn't wish it on anybody.
I actually thought I was going to die doing that shht. That's how sickly I felt. I could see it in the eyes of the NCO I was relieving, too. Bloodshot eyes. Weight gain. Mental fatigue. I wouldn't wish it on anybody.
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I don't have enough "nope" in the bank to cover how much I hate this. As someone in the retirement process right now, I would not do it, and if someone wanted to "make" me do it, I'd find my way to that office I have never been to called IG.
This is a blatant punishment being enforced by someone who either doesn't have the guts or the skills to manage personnel in a unit.
Seriously, who thinks this way? Obviously someone who hasn't had to do things like completely change away from the lifestyle you and your family call normal. It's not a "get it in when you can" transition.
If this is actually being done, it's just one more reason I'm glad I'm out on Thursday.
This is a blatant punishment being enforced by someone who either doesn't have the guts or the skills to manage personnel in a unit.
Seriously, who thinks this way? Obviously someone who hasn't had to do things like completely change away from the lifestyle you and your family call normal. It's not a "get it in when you can" transition.
If this is actually being done, it's just one more reason I'm glad I'm out on Thursday.
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SGT Laura Delgadillo
I saw this in my last unit and spoke to the NCOs on it about it. They said it sucked, but it was actually beneficial. They worked 24 hours, then had 3 days off, they were able to schedule their appointments around it. Plus, most NCOs are smart enough to rotate sleep shifts in the night to get a few hours of sleep.
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SFC (Join to see) What you don't have enough "nopes" for I'll donate my leftover ones I didn't cash in. That makes absolutely no sense, and I've never heard of it. So you're going to take a DA 6, completely readjust it to put retiring/transitioning Soldiers specifically on CQ/Staff Duty?!?!
Common sense isn't so common is it?
Common sense isn't so common is it?
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When you get older, it takes longer to recover from 24-hour duty. When you're young, a 4-hour power nap might do the trick. When you're 40-ish, with years of military wear and tear on you, it may take you a week to recover...from one day of duty.
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Retires or people PCS have enough on their mind with transitioning his unit and other items. It is not a bonus job to most and especially not on a Friday, Saturday or Holiday. If anything it shows to the First Sergeant or CSM your reporting and writing abilities, handling emergencies, sign in and sign out, inspections, security and extra duty. SD will also learn to work with others in different companies or battalions.
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