Posted on Oct 14, 2019
Step-son received a shadow box and we are trying to identify one of the ribbons. Has anyone seen this ribbon before?
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What do the National Archives Records Center.com say about his service? You have sent for a copy of the service record?
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Rudy Suyat
He received the gift last night, his dad didnt know any information so we are trying to get all the info now.
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The chevrons indicate the type worn 1955-2007ish as they are gold on green background. Not a WWII item. The ribbon to the right in the photo appears to be an Army Good Conduct Medal. This ribbon is most likely a service/campaign, state, or foreign award.
WWII ERA ribbons fade in all kinds of funky colors. It is a long shot, but if it were red with thre green stripes symmetrically on each side, it could be a Belgian Croix de Guerrero. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Croix_de_guerre
I can tell you it is not a WWII campaign Medal: asiatic-pacific, Africa, American campaign, etc as there are no center stripes or the three sets of stripes do not align with others.
There is a high likelihood the ribbon rack is upside down.
WWII ERA ribbons fade in all kinds of funky colors. It is a long shot, but if it were red with thre green stripes symmetrically on each side, it could be a Belgian Croix de Guerrero. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Croix_de_guerre
I can tell you it is not a WWII campaign Medal: asiatic-pacific, Africa, American campaign, etc as there are no center stripes or the three sets of stripes do not align with others.
There is a high likelihood the ribbon rack is upside down.
Croix de guerre (Belgium) - Wikipedia
The Croix de guerre (French) or Oorlogskruis (Dutch), both literally translating as "Cross of War", is a military decoration of the Kingdom of Belgium established by royal decree on 25 October 1915.[1] It was primarily awarded for bravery or other military virtue on the battlefield. The award was reestablished on 20 July 1940 by the Belgian government in exile for recognition of bravery and military virtue during World War II.[2] The post-1940...
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LTC Jason Mackay
MSG Gary Eckert I believe the ribbon rack is upside down. I didn’t really see anything else it could be other than a WWII era faded Belgian Croix de Guerre unless it’s some funky state things that’s no longer used. State decorations that have these stripes are white and either have stripes centered or stars printed on.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awards_and_decorations_of_the_United_States_Armed_Forces#/media/File%3ABEL_Croix_de_Guerre_1944_ribbon.svg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awards_and_decorations_of_the_United_States_Armed_Forces#/media/File%3ABEL_Croix_de_Guerre_1944_ribbon.svg
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LTC Jason Mackay
SFC Michael Hasbun - are you looking at the WWI Croix de Guerre or the WWII Croix de Guerre? The WWI does not match that pattern, but the WWII one does.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SFC Michael Hasbun - not if it faded to that color. I know the serviceable ribbon is red with symmetrical green stripes. But if I try fades to that tan color and the stripes fade you could end up with that.
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Possible Nevada National Guard Recruiting Ribbon. It's the only one I found that comes close.
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I have personal experience in having to figure out what ribbons are which, from my own father's service, and two awards I was awarded but were not presented to me because I was already out of the service before they were awarded. I don't recognize the award, but I have a few suggestions where to look. I recommend this to other readers to help "crowd-source" the information:
The stripes and uniform color indicate likely USMC. That is both under the Department of Defense, but (don't tell this to a Marine unless you want a lively discussion), they're technically part of the Navy. You can go to the following sites for more information:
Requesting record of what ribbons/medals should be there:
https://www.archives.gov/personnel-records-center/awards-and-decorations
https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/career/recordsmanagement/Pages/AwdDecorMedal.aspx
Since the ribbon is "chamfered" on the outer corners, this may very well be a "foreign" decoration, which is only worn with approval of the service branch, and SHOULD be recorded in the service record. Wikipedia provides (as do many commercial decoration companies) many of those, even those which are "obsolete," especially for U.S. decorations, along with illustrations. The corner of a medal appears on one side (perhaps USMC Good Conduct, too little visible to be sure), which tends to indicate that the ribbon may not have a corresponding medal, e.g., the Navy's Meritorious Unit Commendation. When the medal is displayed, the ribbon is not. If there is a medal, but it wasn't available for some reason, such as if the award was post-service or posthumous and the recipient never physically received it, searching for the records may be more effective.
The stripes and uniform color indicate likely USMC. That is both under the Department of Defense, but (don't tell this to a Marine unless you want a lively discussion), they're technically part of the Navy. You can go to the following sites for more information:
Requesting record of what ribbons/medals should be there:
https://www.archives.gov/personnel-records-center/awards-and-decorations
https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/career/recordsmanagement/Pages/AwdDecorMedal.aspx
Since the ribbon is "chamfered" on the outer corners, this may very well be a "foreign" decoration, which is only worn with approval of the service branch, and SHOULD be recorded in the service record. Wikipedia provides (as do many commercial decoration companies) many of those, even those which are "obsolete," especially for U.S. decorations, along with illustrations. The corner of a medal appears on one side (perhaps USMC Good Conduct, too little visible to be sure), which tends to indicate that the ribbon may not have a corresponding medal, e.g., the Navy's Meritorious Unit Commendation. When the medal is displayed, the ribbon is not. If there is a medal, but it wasn't available for some reason, such as if the award was post-service or posthumous and the recipient never physically received it, searching for the records may be more effective.
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Looking over a poster created by UNIFORM GUIDE with a copyright date of 2010 there is no such ribbon. That said it could be from someone who served in Korea and or WW2. Thus that ribbon would not be on it.The poster that I am referring to might still be available on the following web site:
http://www.uniformguide.com
http://www.uniformguide.com
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It appears to be a recruiting/retention award from some state. Every ribbon I've found online that looks like that is a state award for either recruiting or retention...
Where/ what unit did this person serve with? That will help narrow it down.
Where/ what unit did this person serve with? That will help narrow it down.
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