Marines
Boot Camp
Drill Instructor School
Hazing
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1st off abuse should never happen. Hazing thou, Ppl grow the fuck up & have thick skin. It's the military any soldier who had been in over 10 years will tell you hazing was just part of the jokes, fun, introduction into the military. Your a soldier. Well not the air force. They are panzies. But army, navy, marines. You are warriors. Suck it up deal with it. Develop that thick skin to brush off the bs & move on.
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I mean what are these Drill Instructors being taught before they are handed there batch of recruits. and when the recruits meet there drill instructors, they are told several times in the DIs speech that they will "never be verbablly or physically abused by any marine or recruit"
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SSgt (Join to see)
The vast majority of the DIs follow the rules. There are just a few that get carried away that end up causing these problems in addition to some recruits just not being able to handle the stress of bootcamp and accusing their DIs of things in an attempt to get out of bootcamp. Every branch has had a bootcamp scandal and most likely every branch will end up with another one in the future. Don't let this one that happened several years ago but just popped up in the news again because of the recruits parents not being willing to accept their son committed suicide keep you from joining or expecting that you will be treated in ways that are not allowed by regulations and orders.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
How do you define verbal and physical abuse? The Drills shouldn't hit or beat you and they shouldn't be calling you names that are offensive, such as racial or religious slurs, but if you expect other than that, you probably looking at the wrong line of work. They most certainly will make you PT (Physical Training) until you are ready to drop and they will more than likely tell you all of your mental, physical and moral shortcoming in a load and direct manner.
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CPO Nate S.
Dear Jordan,
How these DIs will treat you in Boot Camp, is in NOT as ruthless or mind-bending as how the enemy will treat you should you become a POW. As a US Navy Corpsman, my role and duty to MY marines was both special and hard! Hard, precisely because, the history of the USMC is about making the impossible, look both possible and simple, and making the simple look obvious and child's play. Marines and their Corpsmen have shared a special bond for over 100 years. That is why the words - Courage, Honor and Commitment!
- If you are UNWILLING to have the COURAGE to face the same hardships as your fellow Marines when you'd rather be on a beach sucking down a cold beer, then stay HOME!
- If you are UNWILLING to HONOR your fellow Marines when the going gets tough to show them that honor by your example, then stay HOME!
- If you are UNWILLING to have the COMMITMENT to excellence your fellow Marines have shown for nearly 240 years, when lesser men and women find it too hard to do so, then stay HOME!
There is a saying I'd like to share "Doc... Toughest Job in the Corps". Medics "Warrior Healers" know no greater pain than losing a wounded Marine when we have tried so hard to save that Marine when that Marine was lawfully doing their duty! Even at age 60 if asked to return to active duty and return to the Green side, I'd get my butt in shape, with the help of my fellow MARINES, and hit the field. We (I) choose to "...preserve, protect and defend..." Sounds, like you want assurances. Guess what, life is not guaranteed. Hell, I might die of a heart attack tomorrow, and never get to see my grandson graduate from Medical School and become a Navy Physician. I can only do those things that give me a good chance to actually see this event take place! But, I cannot obsess over it.
You may die in training, that is true, but you might also die one day after graduating boot camp while you are looking down at you phone texting a friend or your parents and when not paying attention get ran slam over by a Mac truck, because you failed to be aware of your surroundings. Boot Camp, even with it's "bad apples", is designed to teach you to STAY ALIVE and to HELP your FELLOW Marines (aka Shipmates) stay alive by being alert and paying attention to - DETAILS! The same details that will either cause you to lose or preserve your life. Keep in mind, the "Good Apples", watch out to make sure the "bad apples" are culled, before the barrel of apples are spoiled, but sometimes an apple looks good on the outside, until you actually bite into it. The "Good Apples" are keeping watch, but they still need to press the ripe apples in order to make a GOOD - Apple Juice!
So, if you do plan to join one of the finest fighting organizations in the world, please do it with a willingness TO serve and NOT to be served!!!
Most Respectfully,
Nathan Szejniuk, HMC (SW/AW), USN (Ret)
HM-8404 (Fleet Marine Forces Corpsman)/HM-8432 (Preventive Medicine Specialist)
PS I concur with SSGT Dickey's and SSGT Montgomery's assessments! Some people, an their is no shame in this, cannot accept such discipline. If you are one of those people - please don't put others in harm's way!!!
cc: COL Mikel J. Burroughs
How these DIs will treat you in Boot Camp, is in NOT as ruthless or mind-bending as how the enemy will treat you should you become a POW. As a US Navy Corpsman, my role and duty to MY marines was both special and hard! Hard, precisely because, the history of the USMC is about making the impossible, look both possible and simple, and making the simple look obvious and child's play. Marines and their Corpsmen have shared a special bond for over 100 years. That is why the words - Courage, Honor and Commitment!
- If you are UNWILLING to have the COURAGE to face the same hardships as your fellow Marines when you'd rather be on a beach sucking down a cold beer, then stay HOME!
- If you are UNWILLING to HONOR your fellow Marines when the going gets tough to show them that honor by your example, then stay HOME!
- If you are UNWILLING to have the COMMITMENT to excellence your fellow Marines have shown for nearly 240 years, when lesser men and women find it too hard to do so, then stay HOME!
There is a saying I'd like to share "Doc... Toughest Job in the Corps". Medics "Warrior Healers" know no greater pain than losing a wounded Marine when we have tried so hard to save that Marine when that Marine was lawfully doing their duty! Even at age 60 if asked to return to active duty and return to the Green side, I'd get my butt in shape, with the help of my fellow MARINES, and hit the field. We (I) choose to "...preserve, protect and defend..." Sounds, like you want assurances. Guess what, life is not guaranteed. Hell, I might die of a heart attack tomorrow, and never get to see my grandson graduate from Medical School and become a Navy Physician. I can only do those things that give me a good chance to actually see this event take place! But, I cannot obsess over it.
You may die in training, that is true, but you might also die one day after graduating boot camp while you are looking down at you phone texting a friend or your parents and when not paying attention get ran slam over by a Mac truck, because you failed to be aware of your surroundings. Boot Camp, even with it's "bad apples", is designed to teach you to STAY ALIVE and to HELP your FELLOW Marines (aka Shipmates) stay alive by being alert and paying attention to - DETAILS! The same details that will either cause you to lose or preserve your life. Keep in mind, the "Good Apples", watch out to make sure the "bad apples" are culled, before the barrel of apples are spoiled, but sometimes an apple looks good on the outside, until you actually bite into it. The "Good Apples" are keeping watch, but they still need to press the ripe apples in order to make a GOOD - Apple Juice!
So, if you do plan to join one of the finest fighting organizations in the world, please do it with a willingness TO serve and NOT to be served!!!
Most Respectfully,
Nathan Szejniuk, HMC (SW/AW), USN (Ret)
HM-8404 (Fleet Marine Forces Corpsman)/HM-8432 (Preventive Medicine Specialist)
PS I concur with SSGT Dickey's and SSGT Montgomery's assessments! Some people, an their is no shame in this, cannot accept such discipline. If you are one of those people - please don't put others in harm's way!!!
cc: COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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Sgt (Join to see)
PV2 J M - Boot Camp is tough, and you will have DI's in your face. Be a squared away recruit and you will be fine. Boot Camp is tough but combat is much tougher.
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