Posted on Jun 2, 2017
To the Navy members.... What is your opinion of Red vs. Gold Service Stripes?
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I am researching the history of Service Stripes for all services, but am curious about the Navy's version. I understand the regulation, but I am more curious about the general feelings toward those who wear the Red Service Stripes after 12 years, knowing something has kept them from going Gold. How do your feel about this person if you were...
a senior?
a peer?
a subordinate?
a senior?
a peer?
a subordinate?
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I detest the attitude of “just did not get caught.” Bull... I worked hard for my rank and worked hard this keep a clean record. Not that I was perfect but I never had a Captains Mast. Just because others did not obtain them do not distract a single thing from those Sailors who earned gold. I knew a lot of good Sailors with over 12 who wore red but I knew a lot of those who wore red who were dirt bags who blamed everyone else for that but themselves.
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In the Navy if after 12 yrs service and good conduct throughout you get the gold stripes
It’s a way to show and be seen as a sailor who has his priorities straight.
It’s a way to show and be seen as a sailor who has his priorities straight.
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I worked my butt off to wear gold. Yes people make mistakes but there are consequences for them
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As a CPO that wore both red and gold, I believe that gold was an achievement to be proud of and worn proudly.
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I had gold stripes, but being a BM you can be assured that I was no angel. Sometimes I didn't get caught, sometimes I had a LPO or Chief that valued my work performance and knowledge enough to get stuff squashed. Gold stripes don't necessarily mean someone is a goody goody two shoes.
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I think the gold stripes speak to the level of the mistakes, rather than the presence of them. Everyone screws up, but going to NJP requires (or used to require) screw-ups that are above the level of "forgot tho shave after getting off 13 hours of watch."
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It's a perfect way of recognizing excellent service. You want gold, do what is needed to earn them.
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So this got me to thinking. If the Army had this system, would I ever have not had red stripes?
Truth is, yes. But there were so many times I should've gotten an A15 that... well, I guess being a good talker makes me a good CA guy.
Truth is, yes. But there were so many times I should've gotten an A15 that... well, I guess being a good talker makes me a good CA guy.
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I retired in 1980 so I'm sure times have changed more then a little, but as I can best recall (and it was always my opinion) most Sailors that I knew or dealt with paid absolutely no attention to the color of your crow and hash marks.. Bottom line with me it was/is much ado about nothing!!!
For the record Gold bling cost a good bit more then red... Money that could have been spent on cold beer :-)
For the record Gold bling cost a good bit more then red... Money that could have been spent on cold beer :-)
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How about any Soldiers and Marines..... Do you think your service should adopt a similar practice? Or Airmen.... some kind of distinction on the Longevity Ribbon?
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The Marine Corps enlisted wear different color chevrons and service stripes on our service and dress coats so as it stands now it wouldn't work. But I would love to have or hear the conversation with a marine wearing the wrong color on his coat. We currently wear red and green on service alphas and red and gold on dress alpha/bravos
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PO3 John Wagner - Not that at all. It is just that the AF (AS A WHOLE) has no desire to mentor, it is easier to replace. There is 0 value placed on anyone outside of the Pilots, everyone is replaceable.
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PO3 John Wagner
SSgt Donnavon Smith - That is a very common truism in civilian life. Flowery rhetoric and politically correct public images which corporations like to put on employment applications, it's mostly the same "In the world".
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PO3 John Wagner
SSgt Donnavon Smith - Alas! I had always wanted to be a pilot...ever since I was a little girl..when I applied for the program and gender reassignment all I got was this..
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