Posted on Oct 30, 2015
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The United States will deploy dozens of special operations troops to northern Syria from next month to advise opposition forces in their fight against Islamic State, a major policy shift for President Barack Obama and a step he has long resisted to avoid getting dragged into another war in the Middle East.

The planned deployment, along with the U.S. decision this week to include Iran in diplomatic efforts to end the conflict, represents the biggest change in the United States' Syria policy since it began a bombing campaign against Islamic State targets there in September 2014.

Announcing the measure on Friday, the White House said the troops would be on a mission to "train, advise and assist" and would number fewer than 50. Spokesman Josh Earnest declined to give details about their exact role.

The decision by Obama, deeply averse to committing troops to unpopular wars in the Middle East, would mark the first sustained U.S. troop presence in Syria and raise the risk of American casualties, although U.S. officials stressed the forces were not meant to engage in front-line combat.

"This is a dangerous place on the globe and they are at risk, and there's no denying that," said Earnest, who repeatedly rejected the idea that the deployment would constitute a ground combat mission, which Obama has long rejected as a solution in Syria.

Earnest said the new mission in Syria was open ended and did not rule out the possibility of sending additional special forces troops into Iraq. Obama spoke to Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on Friday about the fight against Islamic State, Earnest said.

The Obama administration is under pressure to ramp up America's effort against Islamic State, particularly after the militant group captured the Iraqi city of Ramadi in May and following the failure of a U.S. military program to train and arm thousands of Syrian rebels.

The planned deployment adds to an increasingly volatile conflict in Syria, where Russia and Iran have increased up their military support for President Bashar al-Assad's fight against rebels in the four-and-a-half year civil war.

Russia said when it began air strikes last month that it would also target the Islamic State militant group, but its planes have hit other rebel groups opposed to Assad, including groups backed by Washington.

The decision to send U.S. special forces to Syria will put U.S. forces "in harm's way," U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said on Friday, adding he did not rule out the possibility of further special forces deployments to Syria.

This month a U.S. soldier was killed in Iraq participating in a Kurdish-led mission to rescue Islamic State hostages.

He we go again , they are calling the Troops "Advisers." Where have we heard that before?
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SFC Craig Dalen
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We have had enough boots on the ground. When is it up to someone else to be responsible for themselves. At some point there needs to be personal accountability for one's self. We will eventually run ourselves into the ground with nothing to show for it because we will never be appreciated for our efforts.
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
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Ain't that the fu-king truth, SFC Craig Dalen! Thanks!
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SSG Carlos Lane - Yea. But our debt is held by a country that cannot call it in. So for now they will continue to push it off
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Another perspective though is the precedent America has set over the past century of not being the nation to turn from atrocity. From WW1 onward. WW1 our hand was forced to action as well as WW2. The undereducated citizens of the world though now shout and complain about how America starts wars, perpetuates wars, etc... But they don't understand the importance.

Look at this specific issue. IS. How many countered intervened when America said we were sitting out initially? None. We state we're going to start air operations. How many followed us. Nations of the world now only act when America does. Not only that but look at post WW2 Europe. We (America) allowed those nations to rebuild due to our military might protecting them. The years to follow and even now the reason those nations can keep a small defense spending budget is because they are sheltered by the what I like to call it the "American Military Might Umbrella". Or "freedombrella" Euoore has known an unprescedented economic growth over the last century as well as a unprecedented time of peace within its continent (relatively) under the protection of America.
Should it be this way? Should we be responsible as "world police" ? No probably not, but we're Americans and now that belief is in our blood. We can't turn away.
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I agree.
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Silly if you thought we weren't already on ground...
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
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Really! CIA what?
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MSgt Erik Copp
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Newsflash... They are already there and have been for quite some time. Of course most of us on here know that already.
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U.S. to send dozens of special forces to Syria as advisors. Your thoughts?
CPT Jack Durish
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Has President Obama secured permission from Putin? The Russians have already proclaimed that Syria will not allow (that is, of course, Putin will not allow) foreign fighters to come unless invited. Will President Obama send the troops if Putin says no? No, I don't have the answers. I'm simply getting the beer and pretzels ready and pulling up my favorite lounge chair, and getting ready to enjoy the show...
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
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So are we all Capt!
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SGT Jerrold Pesz
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I would be for it IF I thought that we were actually going to do the job this time but we won't. We will send a few people over there to get killed and make them use rules of engagement that guarantee that they can't do shit. I don't care if it is a war or a street fight if you aren't going to do whatever is necessary to win you need to just go sit on your ass and have a beer somewhere.
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
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Here here Sarge! Always the same old shit. One would think that we would learn from our mistakes instead of making the same ones over and over again. We should just be allowed to do what we were trained to do and kick some ass!
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This is how these things start, with a few "advisors".
If we were going to do this, we are about three years too late. It will take a hell of a lot more than 50 SF muldoons and four sorties a day to unscrew the tire fire that is Syria.
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Not if we have any sense, SSG Carlos Lane. Any residual force should be comprised of Arab League soldiers, in my opinion.
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SPC Nathan Freeman
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Probably an ill advised plan. Too little too late. It seems we are more concerned about Russia than ISIS
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PO3 Sherry Thornburg
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Heard that one way too often. It means someone is getting ready to start a new war front.
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
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There's always some assholes that want to start shit! lol
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SGT David T.
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Weren't they already there?
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
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Who the hell knows Sarge?
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Capt Jeff S.
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Sooo, our Nobel Peace Prize winning laureate pulls out of Iraq prematurely creating ISIS and claims victory for ending a war that GW started (never mind Saddam invading Kuwait or the WTC that was knocked down), and now he wants to send SF advisors? Do they provide their own security or is he setting them up to be in the next ISIS videos?
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
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Capt. I think that this has been his problem during his entire Term of his Presidency, He has always been "pulling out prematurely."
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One could argue that ISIS is, to some extent, the result of the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. The controversial de-Ba'athification process marginalized many Sunni Arabs and allowed the Shi'ite Arabs to dominate post-Saddam Iraq after decades of Sunni oppression. Many Sunni Arabs now see ISIS as a demented but effective weapon against Shi'ite dominance. Or you can blame Obama.
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