Under estimated ISIS??

If it comes from the White House, it is most likely a statement to save face. The administration has allowed the ISIS situation in Iraq to get where it is today. This was not a surprise. Whether the administration chose to allow it to play itself out or just chose to do nothing for political reasons, I do not think they are surprised of the way things are today.

I think it is not for me to say what the will of the people in Iraq is. I am not in their shoes so I cannot say. Good things is a broad statement. Is the good thing pushing the American will on the Iraqi people. It takes a long time, more than fifteen years, to change the mindset and culture of a people.

Commanders had warned the President before the withdrawal of our troops that this could happen. Did the President listen. No. He listened to his adviser's. Who have really never served in the military and do not know the history of the region. Our President, again thinking he knows what is best for us, did not really allow the CIA to conduct surveillance in the region fully to see that ISIS was coming up very early on. Of course the warnings were there. Our President and his crew missed them.

One of the major problems with the Middle East, is that they are more loyal to their tribe than they are to a central government. So groups like ISIS can take control very quickly if the tribe is like minded and will join without question. We need to understand the Middle East history before we ever commit to supporting someone. Because it will bite us in the you know where every time.

Of course, I am of the mindset that says kill them all and let God sort them out.

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SO many questions in your post.

The President claiming that we under estimated ISIS, when we have known about them...or should have...from the beginning. IF we did not know what was going on in Iraq and Syria...because they are not areas of the World we have had problems with in the past...WHY NOT? We over estimated the and power of our allies...our allies? What allies are we talking about? The Iraqi allies...Iraq ally, when were they ever our ally? Syria, our ally Syria? Is Iran our ally and I missed that memo?

Why do we fight, because more often than not, it has to be done and no one else is willing or able to. Why do we want good things for other countries? Because, for the most part, we are good people wanting good for others and for our sacrifice to mean something.

I think if we are willing to pack up and go help other countries by spilling our own blood then that said country needs to meet and or exceed the passion and willingness that we bring to the table for their fight.