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I saw "Grudge Match" with Sylvester Stallone last week. He clearly had a large Marine EGA tattoo (fake for film) on his chest. He also played an an Army Vet in the Rambo movies.
This isn't uncommon with Hollywood. In this case however, it is widely suspected Sly was a draft dodger but this is as closely guarded as Obama's college transcripts.
Does it rub anybody else wrong that some glorify themselves routinely as veterans in movies who didn't serve in real life. Or should I say refused to serve.
Men like John Wayne were actually deffered because their PR in movies did more good than them serving, so I've read.
This isn't uncommon with Hollywood. In this case however, it is widely suspected Sly was a draft dodger but this is as closely guarded as Obama's college transcripts.
Does it rub anybody else wrong that some glorify themselves routinely as veterans in movies who didn't serve in real life. Or should I say refused to serve.
Men like John Wayne were actually deffered because their PR in movies did more good than them serving, so I've read.
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The issue is now with the draft gone, there will be fewer Hollywood types or other types that have service. Remember, the war-mongering Bush administration has several draft key figures who avoided service through exemption such as Dick Cheney and Karl Rove
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
War mongering? So we should have just said whatever to 9/11? Now that were not there and what is happening , doesn't it make a bit more sense now? Funny, I thought it was the military's job to defend the country.
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America's entry into World War II resulted in a deluge of support for the war effort from all sectors of society, and Hollywood was no exception. Wayne was exempted from service due to his age (34 at the time of Pearl Harbor) and family status, classified as 3-A (family deferment). He repeatedly wrote John Ford saying he wanted to enlist, on one occasion inquiring whether he could get into Ford's military unit, but consistently kept postponing it until after "he finished just one or two pictures".[29] Wayne did not attempt to prevent his reclassification as 1-A (draft eligible), but Republic Studios was emphatically resistant to losing him; Herbert J. Yates, President of Republic, threatened Wayne with a lawsuit if he walked away from his contract[30] and Republic Pictures intervened in the Selective Service process, requesting Wayne's further deferment.[31]
Wayne toured U.S. bases and hospitals in the South Pacific for three months in 1943 and 1944.[32] By many accounts, Wayne's failure to serve in the military was the most painful experience of his life.[33] His widow later suggested that his patriotism in later decades sprang from guilt, writing: "He would become a 'superpatriot' for the rest of his life trying to atone for staying home."[34]
U.S. National Archives records indicate that Wayne had, in fact, made an application [35] to serve in the O.S.S., today's equivalent of the C.I.A., and had been accepted within the U.S. Army's allotted billet to the O.S.S. William Donovan, O.S.S. Commander, wrote Wayne a letter informing him of his acceptance in to the Field Photographic Unit, but the letter went to his estranged wife Josephine's home. She never told him about it.[36]
As far as it bothering me they are actors they are paid to act so if their part requires they play a veteran so be it I won't be upset unless they use their status to bring disgrace to veterans.
Wayne toured U.S. bases and hospitals in the South Pacific for three months in 1943 and 1944.[32] By many accounts, Wayne's failure to serve in the military was the most painful experience of his life.[33] His widow later suggested that his patriotism in later decades sprang from guilt, writing: "He would become a 'superpatriot' for the rest of his life trying to atone for staying home."[34]
U.S. National Archives records indicate that Wayne had, in fact, made an application [35] to serve in the O.S.S., today's equivalent of the C.I.A., and had been accepted within the U.S. Army's allotted billet to the O.S.S. William Donovan, O.S.S. Commander, wrote Wayne a letter informing him of his acceptance in to the Field Photographic Unit, but the letter went to his estranged wife Josephine's home. She never told him about it.[36]
As far as it bothering me they are actors they are paid to act so if their part requires they play a veteran so be it I won't be upset unless they use their status to bring disgrace to veterans.
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Hollywood doesn't look at actors that critically. They pick for looks not background. Stallone had a look to do a good Rambo. Which he did. The main thing is the acting (pretending to be something you are not). He is good at that.
I heard the same thing about John Wayne. They put him to work doing war movies and selling war bonds. My grandfather wasn't allowed to join either. He was too important at Hughes Tools doing quality control. He challenged it twice, but was told no both times.
I heard the same thing about John Wayne. They put him to work doing war movies and selling war bonds. My grandfather wasn't allowed to join either. He was too important at Hughes Tools doing quality control. He challenged it twice, but was told no both times.
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An actoral portrayal of a combat hero is only for entertainment, unless we are tlaking about Audy Murphy, who won the MOH among other awards to become the most highly decorated servicemember of World War II then went on to Hollywood to play him self in "To Hell and Back" in 1955. John Wayne is another interesting case. He was accepted to the US Naval Academy in C. 1925 as an alternate, ending up going to USC in 1927 on a football scholarship. His sholder injury there prevented his admittance into the military during World War II , along with injuries sustained from doing his own stunts and ear issues. There is lots of open discussion about Wayne's selective service classification changes during the 1940s. Overall because of Wayne entire situation it doesnt bother me at all that he has played in some of the best war movies ever made. Stallone on the other hand, is not only a bad actor, but should have his citizenship revoked for fleeing the country for the sole purpose of avoiding the draft. His portrayal of any service member is a slap in the face to every veteran.
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I find actors that oppose the rights provided by the Constitution and protected by we who served, yet made millions producing films depicting and at times glorifying horrific violence, reprehensible. The ultimate hypocrites.
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a movie is just that a movie, fiction, a figment of someone's imagination. that should never be taken the wrong. That is everyone's given right, their imagination. Unfortunately, there are things that we don't like, so we just avoid it unless it is creating someone true harm. till then ignore it.
I believe the wrong comes when Joe Shmoe Someone puts on any part of a uniform without having earned it disgraces it as just another part of clothing walking down the street, thats BS.
As far as their history it happened get over it. we moved forward and have no need to look back at that as it really doesn't get anything productive in return.
I believe the wrong comes when Joe Shmoe Someone puts on any part of a uniform without having earned it disgraces it as just another part of clothing walking down the street, thats BS.
As far as their history it happened get over it. we moved forward and have no need to look back at that as it really doesn't get anything productive in return.
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PFC James Craft
I am glad you didn't have to walk thru the airport with everyone throwing crap on you or go to a party and when ask if you where in Vietnam everyone didn't turn and walk away from you like you had the black plague. I know because they did that to me in the '70's. The same ones that are now trying to act like heroes on film today.
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SPC Humberto Mendoza
first of all I'm sorry they did that to you. Nobody deserved that and i did get called crap when i got home. maybe they didn't throw things, but it's not what i expected and it sure wasn't the "parade" welcome home you see on tv every day. I just came home and moved on. All of you vietnam and prior vets deserve better than most any other because you are a true inspiration of duty, honer, and commitment that is unrivaled. that said it is a disgrace that someone can go to a surplus store and pickup a full uniform and use it as a fashion statement when military members earned them and some in blood. i will never discredit anyone that has honorably worn the uniform, but i will never take anyones right to their imagination. many have served to give us and them the basic rights in this great nation. we all excell better at one thing or another and some just happen to be actors. if you are that offended by the actor playing a part in a movie, become an actor yourself and play the part. we are better than that and need to be the bigger person and set the example. On the other hand, I believe if know which actor threw stuff at you or any other service member, then and now, we have the right to boycott them and anything they are involved in. spread the word of their disgrace and shame them i'll support you if you do. i'm pretty sure that someone will listen. Until them it's just a movie and it's fake.
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JOHN WAYNE WAS TO OLD FOR WW2...BUT HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE SGT STRYKER U.S.M.C SANDS OF IWO JIMA
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