Posted on Sep 11, 2014
Sgt Packy Flickinger
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I saw "Grudge Match" with Sylvester Stallone last week. He clearly had a large Marine EGA tattoo (fake for film) on his chest. He also played an an Army Vet in the Rambo movies.

This isn't uncommon with Hollywood. In this case however, it is widely suspected Sly was a draft dodger but this is as closely guarded as Obama's college transcripts.

Does it rub anybody else wrong that some glorify themselves routinely as veterans in movies who didn't serve in real life. Or should I say refused to serve.
Men like John Wayne were actually deffered because their PR in movies did more good than them serving, so I've read.
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LCpl James Craft
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I agree 100% if someone gave Sly a real weapon with live rounds and didn't direct him he would probably shoot himself.
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
Sgt Packy Flickinger
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John Eric Hexum did.
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SSG Maurice P.
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AUDIE PURPHY WAS A GREAT ACTOR AND THE MOST DECORATED SOLDIER IN AMERICAN HISTORY...LEE MARVIN WAS A REAL BATTLE FIELD MARINE AND A GREAT ACTOR...
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SFC Robin Gates
SFC Robin Gates
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Jimmy Stewart, James Arness, James Gardner,Eddie Albert,Mel Brooks,Art Carney,Charles Durning,Douglas Fairbanks, Jr.,Russell Johnson to name a few. Great Actors all. I still appreciate watching them to this day. The great men, never truly get credit, in this PC world, slim to NONE. Chance's aren't that great anymore.
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SFC Robin Gates
SFC Robin Gates
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1LT John Martin that was hilarious! Never thought about it that way, Mel Brooks was cool...everyone wondered why James Arness (Matt Dillion) walked with a limp, Purple Heart!
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SSG Maurice P.
SSG Maurice P.
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In my opinion Hollywood should have done a Blockbuster movie about Lt General Chesty b Puller USMC-Gysgt John Basilone USMC-or Sgtmaj Dan Daly USMC Oohrah
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MCPO Dan Whittle
MCPO Dan Whittle
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HBO's 'The Pacific' highlights heroic story of N.J.'s John Basilone. On Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg production of "The Pacific" begins to air on HBO. The 12-part series revolves around the lives of three Marines/
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CPT Kit Lancaster
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Hollywood's job is to tell stories. Some of them are great, some are horrible. They are made for a variety of reasons. There are amazing actors out there who's work I admire. When you dig into their personal beliefs / lives, they are people I would never want to know or be around on any level personally.

It is important art and films is protect as free speech. Even if the individuals in the films are disconnected from reality. I'm more concerned when citizens and consumers are discounted from reality.

I think we live in a strange time with a population that isn't fully connected with consequences of sending our military to war. Perhaps citizens and soldiers of Rome felt the same way in the four century AD.
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
Sgt Packy Flickinger
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I find it hard to enjoy the performance of some entertainers when I find what they do in real life dispicable.
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CPT Kit Lancaster
CPT Kit Lancaster
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Completely understandable. That said, you might want to give some of them a break. We are all flawed at one point or another in our lives or in one aspect of our lives.
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Sgt Carlos Marquina
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In way we all Marines get a bit offended at that but hey you have to look at it as hey we the United States Marine Corps are finally getting more representation in movies now that's what I love to see.
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
Sgt Packy Flickinger
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It's not the portrayal in movies, it's the ones who are draft dodgers in real life who pretend to be Heros in movies that disgusts me. Hollywood can portray the military in movies all they want. Loved the authenticity of "Stripes" btw. Lol
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Cpl David Schaffer
Cpl David Schaffer
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In all honesty could we expect anything less, when we voted in a President who was\is a known draft dodger?
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
Sgt Packy Flickinger
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Yea, that made sence. Elect a two time draft dodger to command the military. That's a whole other book best not had on here.
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SPC Kaye Brundage
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He has paralysis due to issues at birth. That would be reason enough for him not to serve. He may have been turned down due to that. you can't serve if you don't pass the physical. Many small things can be the reason(s) for being denied.
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Sgt Matthew Lichenstein
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John Wayne was exempted from service due to his age (34 at the time of Pearl Harbor) and family status, classified as 3-A (family deferment). He repeatedly wrote John Ford saying he wanted to enlist, on one occasion inquiring whether he could get into Ford's military unit, but consistently kept postponing it until after "he finished just one or two pictures".[29] Wayne did not attempt to prevent his reclassification as 1-A (draft eligible), but Republic Studios was emphatically resistant to losing him; Herbert J. Yates, President of Republic, threatened Wayne with a lawsuit if he walked away from his contract[30] and Republic Pictures intervened in the Selective Service process, requesting Wayne's further deferment.[31]

Wayne toured U.S. bases and hospitals in the South Pacific for three months in 1943 and 1944.[32] By many accounts, Wayne's failure to serve in the military was the most painful experience of his life.[33] His widow later suggested that his patriotism in later decades sprang from guilt, writing: "He would become a 'superpatriot' for the rest of his life trying to atone for staying home."[34]

U.S. National Archives records indicate that Wayne had, in fact, made an application [35] to serve in the O.S.S., today's equivalent of the C.I.A., and had been accepted within the U.S. Army's allotted billet to the O.S.S. William Donovan, O.S.S. Commander, wrote Wayne a letter informing him of his acceptance in to the Field Photographic Unit, but the letter went to his estranged wife Josephine's home. She never told him about it.[36]
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SSgt Brendan Doyle
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And to be fair John Wayne attempted to enlist but was rejected for medical reasons
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
Sgt Packy Flickinger
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See, that makes him one of the good guys. Can't fault a guy for trying.
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CPT Justin Cawthon
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Doesn't bother me. It is fake and meant to entertain. They do not represent themselves as real, and we know it is not real, so no harm, no foul.

If it is too over the top, I just do not go, and give no thought to it.

sure, it annoys me when candy asses like Clooney, Damon, and Pitt play men they have no business trying to portray.
Nevertheless, I defend the constitution, and that is a form of speech, albeit a cheap and corny form.
I just don't waste my time and money, I would rather dedicate my efforts to playing guitar, learning a program or a language, or anything else to exercise my dense but weak mind!

Stallone's movies are corny but fun.
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
Sgt Packy Flickinger
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Dense but weak mind. Lol. I like that.
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SFC Mark Merino
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All that concerns me Sgt Packy Flickinger is who is going to get the honor of playing me on the silver screen. Will it be Brad Pitt, George Clooney, or one of the other gorgeous people? I'm leaning towards Sloth from "The Goonies" personally. "Sloth loves Chunk."
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CPO Jon Campbell
CPO Jon Campbell
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That's what everyone used to say until Agents of SHIELD came out and then people started calling me Colson.
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CPO Jon Campbell
CPO Jon Campbell
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
Sgt Packy Flickinger
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Didn't you hear SFC Mark Merino Paul Reubens has your part.
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SFC Mark Merino
SFC Mark Merino
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My bike!
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SGT Sterling Reece
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I don't, because I support a person's freedom to choose to enlist or not. The draft itself was unjust, and as such dodging it does not constitute an immoral act.

As far as serving, lots of people serve. They don't all have to put on a uniform. Anyone who works hard, innovates, accumulates capital, is a net gain and is thus serving.

And I take those roles, to the extent that they at least attempt to be honest portrayals, as an homage.
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