Posted on Feb 5, 2014
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I ask this question because I know about not being able to walk and talk on the phone while on duty in uniform, but I was corrected, in a very sarcastic, rude way, while off duty and out of uniform for walking and talking on my phone. Am I wrong?<div><br></div><div><br></div>
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In uniform wrong, out of uniform off duty, none of my damn business.
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SSG Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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Well played, well played.
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SFC William Swartz Jr
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KISS principle, luv it!
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SSgt Dan Montague
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I have an entire opinion when it comes to the lack of courtesy I see when people walk and talk on phones. However, since this is pertaining to uniform questions I wont rant.
It was BS how you were corrected in that manner. At least in the Marine Corps while out of uniform you can eat, chew gum and talk on a phone while walking.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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SGT Dan Montague, LOL, Marines can do all of that and breathe, too?
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I managed to walk and talk on a radio in uniform while in contact and still manage to direct fire. I assume you can manage to walk and talk while wearing a polo shirt without ending western civilization.
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SSG V. Michelle Woods
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Best response EVER sir!
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Capt Chris McVeigh
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I was going to respond to the SFC's post above yours sir but you managed to top it in the best way possible.
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SFC Mark Merino
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And that was whenMAJ (Join to see) was in garrison! Don't mess with him in combat!!!!!!
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I agree with SSG Woods.
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SFC Victor Serrano
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If you're off duty and out of uniform there is no need to be corrected for talking and walking on the phone!&nbsp;&nbsp;
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LTC Labrador, the reg states "(b) Facial hair. Males will keep their face clean-shaven when in uniform, or in civilian clothes on duty. " we do do not have to remain clean shaven off duty.
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1SG Chris Brown
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That was one of the rumors leading up to the 670-1 change, but it didn't make it into the final version. Can you imagine that being part of the punitive paragraphs as well? So now I have to drive out to my Soldier's houses and check them while they're mowing their lawns to make sure they shaved Saturday morning? I know I'll be ready to retire when that change makes it in there!
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Yet we still have Courtesy Patrols providing "on the spot correction" to soldiers who are out of uniform and off duty for their shave (I've seen it in the PX at Ft. Sam Houston)...
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1SG Vet Technician
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how do they know it's not a DA Civ, spouse or dependant?
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Walking/Talking on the phone IN and OUT of uniform.
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SPC Toombes,<div><br></div><div>I am sure you were corrected because -</div><div><br></div><div>1) Military member in civilian clothes but we can all pick each other out even out of uniform.</div><div>2) Talking on a cell phone while walking.</div><div><br></div><div>--WAIT FOR IT--</div><div><br></div><div>3) You were not wearing your PT belt while doing it!</div><div><br></div><div>Ok all joking aside - unless it is in a local policy letter you did nothing wrong. One thing I like to do it quote regulation when correcting a Soldier. That way they know it isn't one of my "isms" but an actual rule in a regulation or policy.</div>
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SSG Trevor S.
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It could have also been construed as a safety issue correction by the correcting Soldier.
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SSG Christopher Freeman
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In this scenario, take it with a grain of salt. Don't get too caught up on the way they "corrected" you. Instead, put your nose into local policies and inform yourself. Once you have an answer, share the wealth.
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1SG Eric Rice
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In no way shape or form is it currently stated in any Army Regulation that walking or talking on a cell phone is prohibitied. That being said many installations have policy letters that dictate local procedures and guidance for such activities. Be sure to check local policy letters to see what the guidance is for your location. As Army Regulations are updated ,such as AR 670-1, regulatory guidance might change to reflect what most installation policy letters have in place.

 

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SFC Military Police
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From AR 670-1
(d) Soldiers will not walk while engaged in activities that would interfere with the hand salute and greeting of the day or detract from a professional image. Examples include, but are not limited to, walking while eating, using electronic devices, or smoking cigarettes, cigars, or pipes.
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OKay....

Here's my take on this...

I'm sure everyone THINKS they are prefectly capable of walking and talking at the same time. Most of us manage it quite well. Based on my research there's a mix of regs - all depending on the service. Some of the regs make sense - some...not so much. I don't even want to discuss the vague ones......

What I have a concern about is the fact that there are a lot of people that don't realize how little they are actually paying attention to traffic (foot and vehicle) around them while they're talking on the phone. It doesn't matter whether you're holding the phone up to your ear or using bluetooth - for some reason we just can't walk and talk on the phone and still manage our situational awareness. The statistics get worse when you add texting to the mix. Just last week I watched not one, not two, but over 25 officers (I quit counting after 25) on a major joint base walking around with a phone attached to their ears and every single one of them was so engrossed in their extremely important conversations they could not watch the vehicle traffic around them - 8 of them either hit a traffic cone or had to make some sort of dramatic manuever to avoid.

Now, I'm not a safety nazi - but stupid is as stupid does. Trust me, there was not one conversation those 25 officers had that was life threatening or end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it. NOT one. So for me, it just doesn't make sense - unless it's a life or death situation.

Now as for being off duty, out of uniform, hell, I still can't think of any conversation (other than life or death) that we NEED to walk and talk on the phone at the same time...just can't think of one that is that important. I know I'm being picky but the statistics between walking/talking on the phone and walking/texting on the phone and the accidents caused by same are just not impressive at all. Oh the numbers are impressive, but as far as showing that we, as humans, are truely good at multitasking - not so much......
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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While I am not confrontational I can see the point of the criticism.&nbsp;&nbsp; I also believe tact is a strong leadership skill and will garner more acceptance than brow-beating and hectoring.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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In all seriousness though, when I've spent an extended period of time on AD for deployments or schools and I've gotten into the no cell phone/smoking while walking things and staying off the grass... then I go back to the civilian world.. I always feel like I'm doing something wrong. There have been times that I've stopped to smoke or tried to go the long way around the grass and people I've been with have been like "WTH are you doing dude?"
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SSG Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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It's similarly difficult for me on leave, only in reverse. I have a huge amount of difficulty not making on the spot corrections to civilians who are doing things like smoking next to a door (By the ashtray).
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