Posted on Feb 5, 2014
Walking/Talking on the phone IN and OUT of uniform.
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I ask this question because I know about not being able to walk and talk on the phone while on duty in uniform, but I was corrected, in a very sarcastic, rude way, while off duty and out of uniform for walking and talking on my phone. Am I wrong?<div><br></div><div><br></div>
Posted 12 y ago
Responses: 33
Here's a spin I just had. Order's were tans with APFU, it's past duty hours and I'm inside. I've passed by multiple officers and the two MSGs here whom one put out the order, neither told me I couldn't be on my phone after duty when the one noncivilian clothing item I have here is in the laundry. A temporary team mate of mine calked me a shitbag for walking around with my phone "in a military uniform" (yet he wears PT items not put out in the uniform of the day orders.) So am I wrong for being on my phone while in partial uniform off duty, because I never seen that in AR670, and have read it in full many times over the years?
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Some military installations have/had base-wide rules stating no walking and talking on cell phone anywhere on base. Only reason why I know this is because this happened to me also. And the person was very rude about it and it's wrong how they go on about it but it must be some power trip or something.
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I think in civilian clothes it's fine, who are they to know you're not a retired soldier on post? To add some flair to the question what about Army soldiers walking and texting/walking and making a phone call on a Joint installation where, for example, the Navy installation Commander has authorized it? Should soldiers follow what I consider the Army standard and refrain from such behavior?
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SPC Toombes,
As several people may have stated, there is no Army regulation that says you cannot talk on your phone while off-duty and out of uniform. There is also no 8th Army regulation on this as well. The current Blue Book states the following: (PARA 10, e, 1)
"Soldiers will not walk and communicate with a cell phone/device while in any uniform. Soldiers will stop walking until the completion of the conversation/texting."
So next time someone comes up to you and tells you that you cannot walk while talking on your cell phone (being out of uniform)... ask him/her what policy or regulation states that and then proceed with correcting the individual regardless of rank what the current 8th Army policy states (which you fall under).
As several people may have stated, there is no Army regulation that says you cannot talk on your phone while off-duty and out of uniform. There is also no 8th Army regulation on this as well. The current Blue Book states the following: (PARA 10, e, 1)
"Soldiers will not walk and communicate with a cell phone/device while in any uniform. Soldiers will stop walking until the completion of the conversation/texting."
So next time someone comes up to you and tells you that you cannot walk while talking on your cell phone (being out of uniform)... ask him/her what policy or regulation states that and then proceed with correcting the individual regardless of rank what the current 8th Army policy states (which you fall under).
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I bet that SM who corrected you while using a cell phone, off duty and in civilian attire and walking does exactly what he or she told you not to do. What was your response? Personally, I think you should have said you're civilian attire and kept on walking. What are they going to do, make a big scene and grab you? I think not.
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SPC(P) (Join to see) Sounds like you met an NCO or Officer who had WAY too much time on their hands.
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Were you butt-nekkid walking in traffic? Then you would have been wrong, unless your post has some sort of policy posted saying you can not, then ummm no you were G-2-G.
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The new AR 670-1 clearly dictates no walking and talking on phone while in uniform.
(d) Soldiers will not walk while engaged in activities that would interfere with the hand salute and greeting of the day or detract from a professional image. Examples include, but are not limited to, walking while eating, using electronic devices, or smoking cigarettes, cigars, or pipes.
That being said it is left open for interpretation because it does not stipulate in that one sentence whether that is in or out of uniform. That is where common sense comes in.
(d) Soldiers will not walk while engaged in activities that would interfere with the hand salute and greeting of the day or detract from a professional image. Examples include, but are not limited to, walking while eating, using electronic devices, or smoking cigarettes, cigars, or pipes.
That being said it is left open for interpretation because it does not stipulate in that one sentence whether that is in or out of uniform. That is where common sense comes in.
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SFC (Join to see)
Someone will try to challenge it because it doesn't state specifically about attire, I can just see it coming.
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1SG Chris Brown
Actually it does say this is specifically when wearing the uniform. We can not take a single subparagraph out of context without looking at the paragraph it comes out of. The subparagraph stated by SFC G is 3-6a(2)(d) which specifically covers "Uniform Appearance and Fit" and each of the subparagraphs deal with different items while wearing the uniform, such as electronic devices or keychains hanging from the beltloop. I don't see where this couold ever be interpreted by anyone as prohibiting talking on a cell phone while walking in civililan clothes.
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SSG (Join to see)
How about the "detracts from a professional image"? Eating and walking? Does this still apply indoors?
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Was he correcting you because you were walking and talking on the cell phone and you were not paying attention? What actually happened? I am at Camp Humphreys and I see people walking around on there phones all the time. Maybe he was just being an ass or just looking out for your safety. Just pay attention to were you are going and enjoy Korea (volunteer and tour Korea).
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