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So yesterday we were sitting through probably the 5th brief I've had lately on the new OER system when a question occurred to me and another fellow warrant. It was brought up in the discussion that under the new regulation that all Majors must be senior rated by a COL (O6) or higher. That got us thinking that as CW3s (also field grades) what is the minimum senior rater requirement? We pulled up the new reg and was a little surprised to see that all warrants (WO1-CW5 only have a senior rater requirement of MAJ). I was also even more shocked to discover that according to the regulation, a 2LT could actually rate a CW5.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div>
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You guys are pulling my leg. A 2LT rating a CW5/ even CW2.
A PFC rating a E6. ??? Unfortunately today E-5/ E-6 those ranks are giving by learn how to answer question. No backbone of leadership or mentorship. That’s a different topic.
A PFC rating a E6. ??? Unfortunately today E-5/ E-6 those ranks are giving by learn how to answer question. No backbone of leadership or mentorship. That’s a different topic.
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SSgt Elihu Lowery
From an Air Force prospective this is all a little confusing. The Warrants are upset because they are being rated by a superior commissioned officer but they don't feel that the officer is high enough in the military hierarchy to rate them? .An O1-O3 is still three or five grades above a W3. This would be akin to an AF E6 going to the Squadron Commander protesting that as the most Senior junior NCO he demands to be rated by no less than a Major because he believes only someone 5 grades higher can truly appreciate what he does.
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I have always respected the Warrant Officer rate. The worst dressing down was from a W-1 in the USMC. Ranks are ranks.
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I look at experience and time in service requirements, when it takes at minimum around what 6 years usually more to become CW5 depending on availability or necessity and a pimple face inexperienced kid gets a BS in dump truck driving school and has the right to rate a CW5. I think I've made it clear experience should be respected
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Been following the US Navy? Asking Congress to make Push Button (Instant) E-7 Chiefs, and 0-6 Navy Captains, to recruit CYBER experts into service
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If you’re discussing this about the Army Warrant Officers rank then I have just this to say. All Warrant and Commission Officers pay grade/rank are senior to all enlisted pay grade/rank. All Commission Officers pay grade/rank to include Limited Duty Officers (LDO), are Seniors to everyone else. It shouldn’t matter what branch of military service you are in by DOPMA regulations.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
James, Fitreps or respect were never an issue with us. For the short while I had a 200 man Company in Oki, I wrote fitreps on 3 CWO2s. I was CWO3 and they had no complaints. CWOs often got Companies if there wasn't a regular around, and stepped down when one showed up. We went by the 1 bar rule and it always worked. I never had a Lt ask me for a salute and always rendered one for the 2 Company COs that were 1stLt. Unless we were in the field or a Capt asked me not to salute around the work area, it was 2 bars so I saluted. I never had any issues.
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It’s fucked up if u ask me. In what world doesn’t experience not over do a degree. Think about that only in the military do they say if u go to math class and science class u are better than the people who put their time in.
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Two questions:
Do MTO&Es or equivent call for a spefic rank of Warrant Officer? In the 80s and 90s I recall that they did not. A Battalion Maint. Cheif could be a WO1-WO4/5 depending on who was in the pipeline. No matter the rank the worked for the BMO.
Question 2: Soulf we get rid of Warrants and use LImited Duty Officers? Started doing this in the Medical Corps with PAs.
Do MTO&Es or equivent call for a spefic rank of Warrant Officer? In the 80s and 90s I recall that they did not. A Battalion Maint. Cheif could be a WO1-WO4/5 depending on who was in the pipeline. No matter the rank the worked for the BMO.
Question 2: Soulf we get rid of Warrants and use LImited Duty Officers? Started doing this in the Medical Corps with PAs.
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Question: Is a CW3 consider a company or field grade officer? Or neither one?
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