Posted on Apr 11, 2014
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So yesterday we were sitting through probably the 5th brief I've had lately on the new OER system when a question occurred to me and another fellow warrant. &nbsp;It was brought up in the discussion that under the new regulation that all Majors must be senior rated by a COL (O6) or higher. &nbsp;That got us thinking that as CW3s (also field grades) what is the minimum senior rater requirement? &nbsp;We pulled up the new reg and was a little surprised to see that all warrants (WO1-CW5 only have a senior rater requirement of MAJ). &nbsp;I was also even more shocked to discover that according to the regulation, a 2LT could actually rate a CW5.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div>
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CPL David Thompson
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Who cares as long as you get paid?
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CWO4 Response Dept, Boat Ops
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I get rated by an O4, with review and approval of an O5. I cannot see being rated by an Ensign or LTjg as they are still learning their jobs as opposed to understanding what I do.
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PO3 David Davis
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CW ratings are different. I do not see a problem with it.
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SSG Brian Edwards
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I'm glad I'm not in army any more after hearing all this shit, I remember why I got out. The straight answer is if you do your job, most of the time rank will come.
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SSG Mechanic
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To that point, Noncommissioned Officers serving in the Field (Battalion, Brigade, equivalent) aren't "real officers" either.

That "commission" term is where the breakdown occurs. A CSM would not be rated by an LT (or even a CPT) for the same reason a CW3 shouldn't be rated by an LT.

This is despite the granted Commission status at "Chief" level Warrant Officer ranks.

While we're on annoying rank structure- bring back the Specialist Corps! It basically became the Warrant Officer Corps anyway....
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CPT Aviation Combined Arms Operations
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You are still junior to a LT. CW3 to CW5 are not field grades, they have field grade privileges, it also denotes what type of formation they tend to work in company, bn/be a or Div+. Excluding aviation not many LT would ever be in a position in which they would be able to rate a CW3 or better. In aviation 3s are common in the platoon level and would be rated by their platoon leader. This is why senior raters need to mentor young raters to ensure they know how to write and can articulate the true performance of the Soldier being rated.
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SGT John Griep
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Ok, now I have been out a while, but in the 80s and 90s a, CW3 could be a,company commander, which would be an O3 equivalent. Therefore a CW4-5 should have to be rated by an O6? I know things,change but that should not. CW1-5 Are the best ranks in the Military,
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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I’ve seen CW1s and 2s but 3s, 4s, and 5s? 3s, 4s, and 5s exist? Those guys are ghosts!!!!who knows where they hang out and lurk.
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Cpl Patrick Ramsey
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I'd go to war with a CWO over a butter bar any day, warrant officers have a quality to them a greenhorn commisioned officer honestly only has a concept of. Lt of any grade have no business writing input on anyones fit rep above the rank of MSgt let alone a WO of any grade; and even then, it needs to be signed off on by a Sr officer. How Sr depending on rank and billet of said WO or CWO. Sorry if you're assigned the billet of BN S6 officer as a CWO4-5, the XO or CO depending on the manpower/deployment scenario NEEDS TO DO IT.
This shit kills me. The individual below you (in most cases) in years of service, occupational, and leadership experience is gonna rate your performance? I mean seriously? Is that how we do things now?
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PO3 Paul Pawlicki
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Warrants deserve the same respect as any officer. Many of them have years of experience. So what’s the big deal? What has changed since 1966-1970?
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