Posted on Apr 11, 2014
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So yesterday we were sitting through probably the 5th brief I've had lately on the new OER system when a question occurred to me and another fellow warrant. &nbsp;It was brought up in the discussion that under the new regulation that all Majors must be senior rated by a COL (O6) or higher. &nbsp;That got us thinking that as CW3s (also field grades) what is the minimum senior rater requirement? &nbsp;We pulled up the new reg and was a little surprised to see that all warrants (WO1-CW5 only have a senior rater requirement of MAJ). &nbsp;I was also even more shocked to discover that according to the regulation, a 2LT could actually rate a CW5.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div>
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SGT Latin Flavor
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It all boils down to who has to salute who first!!! Do the math.. not hard to figure out who is holding a higher rank. Of a csm is supposed to satute a second LT and that LT makes more money than a sgt .. education is powerful not always fair..
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GySgt Lawrence D. Pool
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Holy crap! That is very hard to believe. Yes, technically, a 2nd Lt. is senior to a CWO-5. Hopefully, they are smart enough to realize they had best not push the fact. In the Marine Corps, I have known more than one 2nd Lt be put in their place by a CWO-4. There were no CWO-5s when I was on active duty.
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Cpl Gabriel F.
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Strange no reason regulation.
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COL Ardis Ferguson
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I’ve not put CW4 and above in a position to be rated by an LT, they worked at higher levels and were rated by LTC or COL and many times Senior Rated by GOs ant time I designed the rating scheme. My first warrant officer contact was CW4 Crow many years ago in a far off land. That was the benchmark and my respect for Warrants has been to rate/senior rate at a level commensurate with the level of the organization where they are assigned. A WO1 with a 2LT rated, CPR senior rated, CW2 rated by a CPT, senior rated by a MAJ/ LTC etc. just my thoughts and how I position Warrant Officers in support of unit missions
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CW3 Reclined In My Chair
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Sgt Rifleman
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I guess you have got me on this one. A 2nd lieutenant doesn't have the experience to tell much of anyone to do , they have gotten more people killed than the enemy.
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CPT Earl George
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Just my $.02. I took nobody for granted while I was in the service. I did not care what their rank was. I looked for them to show me what they were made of regardless of rank.
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SFC Stanley Sayers
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Kind of takes away from your achievement doesn’t it?
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CMSgt Mike Esser
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How did the reg read before?
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CW3 Doyle Frost
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Never had a rating by anyone below captain, even as a "Wobbly One." Then again, that might have just been our units. Senior rater was always 0-6 or higher. Didn't make any difference to me, as I did my job the best I could, and everyone up the chain seemed to be satisfied. To me, the ones that counted, MY troops, seemed to find satisfaction with my work.
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CPT Jeff Robinette
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So a wet behind the ears Green as grass 2LT rates a CWO with 15-20 years in the Army and has been doing his job properly and effectively for years.
I didn't see CW5s when I was on Active Duty. That rank didn't exist. But I cannot see a circumstance where i, as a 2LT, would feel comfortable rating that CHIEF Warrent Officer.
I felt the same way when I would Rate my Platoon Sergeants. But the difference for me was that I was Branch Qualified Officer, and had little experience in that COW's field.
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