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So yesterday we were sitting through probably the 5th brief I've had lately on the new OER system when a question occurred to me and another fellow warrant. It was brought up in the discussion that under the new regulation that all Majors must be senior rated by a COL (O6) or higher. That got us thinking that as CW3s (also field grades) what is the minimum senior rater requirement? We pulled up the new reg and was a little surprised to see that all warrants (WO1-CW5 only have a senior rater requirement of MAJ). I was also even more shocked to discover that according to the regulation, a 2LT could actually rate a CW5.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div>
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Chief,
I don't know if they didn't just think this through when they typed it but in every single unit I have worked in with warrants they are not rated this way. In my last unit in my S6 shop when my CW2 made the 3 list he was immediately rated by the BN XO and SR by the BN CDR taking me as a CPT out of the rating scheme. This will have to be dealt with on a case by case basis to ensure the proper rating scheme is followed.
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When I stared as a W1 and for a little while as a CW2 I was rated by the CO CDR (CPT). I was eventually moved out out of the signal company and into the BDE S6 shop where I was rated by the S6 (MAJ). I am currently rated by a MAJ and SR by a LTC and think that at this point if it ever went below that level, I would be having a very serious conversation with the unit leadership.
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No it wasn't pooling (at least in this case). In my particular case when the Army went to a BCT concept my position (and entire section) was placed under the Sig Co where it wasn't effective given the fact that we had BDE wide responsibilities. My unit (and many others) made the decision to move the entire section under the BDE S6. Eventually the Army wide MTOE was changed to this configuration. When we talk about pooling, I think we're talking about saying that for example that the BDE CDR will SR ALL CPTs just so he has enough CPT ratings in order to give his Commanders ACM (or whatever it's being called now).
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This is an easy one All commissioned officers outrank all Warrant officers
they also outrank all enlisted men. There is no such thing as a field grade warrant. They get housing and a few things like that as a privilege. The do have lots of experience but are a Tech In a relative limited field.
they also outrank all enlisted men. There is no such thing as a field grade warrant. They get housing and a few things like that as a privilege. The do have lots of experience but are a Tech In a relative limited field.
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The BAH tables, protocol positions for DA civilians, and titles like Field Grade and Comany Grade, or Junior and Senior NCOs, should not be confused. If I am your boss,I need the power of the pen.
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Before we all go out and jump off a cliff on this issue we need to do the math and see what we're actually discussing here. Where do you find most Warrants? Both Aviation and "Ground" Warrants work at the Battalion level or below (Senior Warrants at Brigade and higher work for Majors and above in my experience). CW5s are principally on Senior Staff. Can you point out a CW5 who actually works directly for a 2LT? We're also mixing apples and oranges when we mix raters versus senior raters. While I haven't seen and am not familiar with this new change in the OER system, I would think there may be unusual situations where people are rated by lower ranking seniors, but in those cases there is usually a good reason for doing so.
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The Army has to rethink this policy. A greenhorn 2LT evaluating a seasoned experienced Warrant Officer is like the tail wagging the dog.
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When did a CWO become field grade? 1-5 is company grade. May have more time in service but still company grade.
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Must be an Army thing. Marine Corps is not the same and our Warrant Officer population is counted as part of the total Officer population. Army counts Warrants as part of their Enlisted population from what I’ve been told. All CWO2 and above are commissioned officers in the Marines.
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CPT William Jones
I really doubt that on the books and in the regs a warrant officer and a commissioned officer are the same. I believe a regular type officer receives his officer type by receiving a commision from the US . Warrants from their Department for Marines that would be the Navy.If they were the same they would call them all the same.
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