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So yesterday we were sitting through probably the 5th brief I've had lately on the new OER system when a question occurred to me and another fellow warrant. It was brought up in the discussion that under the new regulation that all Majors must be senior rated by a COL (O6) or higher. That got us thinking that as CW3s (also field grades) what is the minimum senior rater requirement? We pulled up the new reg and was a little surprised to see that all warrants (WO1-CW5 only have a senior rater requirement of MAJ). I was also even more shocked to discover that according to the regulation, a 2LT could actually rate a CW5.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div>
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Well at least you still get to walk on the grass and put your hands in your pockets
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CW3 (Join to see)
Don't forget about not showing up to morning formation because we worked late the night before.
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CW3 (Join to see)
Whoever wants to grade us, as long as it's not in the morning or on a day when we're too busy with getting things done for the boss.
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SPC Steven Penn
I never actually saw a WO/CW do PT or a PT test. Army Warrants (except aviators) were like white stags; I knew they existed but they were super hard to find. I actually worked with a few in personnel, they were technical demigods.
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After enduring my first promotion board - I learned that there’s barely time to skim the rater’s portion. The Senior Rater’s (SR) profile and comments count. Colonel’s gave top blocks/highest comment’s to their subordinate commanders and a very few other’s in order to ensure that their SR profiles complied.
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Without knowing the technical, military difference in the nature of the difference between a Commission and a Warrant, I think that's where the issue lies.
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LTs can’t really rate. As a 1LT company commander anytime I was the SR rater everything I rated had to be reviewed by CPT+ Only when my LTC was the Sr rater a review was never needed.
An LT doing any rating is never the final say.
An LT doing any rating is never the final say.
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I worked in ordinance as a 63H(tank mechanic) in a support battalion forward support team. Yeah, a 2LT outranks both CW3 and CSM, but I guarantee any battalion XO or commander with a lick of sense will most likely go with the WO or CSM. There’s rank, then there’s experience through hash marks!
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This gets hard to figure sometimes. Back in the 60's Engineers provided tach maps ans in the whole wide world there were only THREE Warrants in the Army with the MOS in the map company. One in Germany, one in Japan And the last in DC. They did pretty much as they pleased on assignments transfers etc. When one wanted to change stations he called the others, they decided what they wanted and the one in DC went to G! and told them to write the orders. Very unusual situation They were rated By the company CO in the field and a flag officer in DC. The companies were commanded by what was available from O1-03.
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My thoughts? My dad was a CW4 in the Corp of Engineers. I was a RA Captain in the Corp of Engineers. He served 28 years... 1948 to 1977. I served 5 years... 1979 to 1984. He fought in Korea and served most of his time in overseas assignments. I have always had the upmost respect for Warrants. I would never attempt to compare my experience to his nor consider myself qualified to rate him. His last assignment was the S-3 for the 36th Engineer Group at Fort Benning, a Major slot. He was rated by a Full Bird O-6. Company grade officers avoided him. Maybe the Army has changed? It’s sad if it has to the point that Warrants are no longer feared and respected for the experts they are.
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A 2lt is nothing but a PFC in officer ranks. he knows nothing about anything to be able to rate anyone. He is still learning from the Staff NCO's himself.
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MSG Loren Tomblin
My grandson is a butterbar/Infantry (HOOAH!!!). He is now going to jump school and then Ranger. I advised his young ass to hook up and seek the council of his sergeants before he half-steps. The greatest compliment was from my PT Leader (RIP) 1966 in Viet Nam. I was a former SGT and as an E-2 holding the EIB. He always asked for me as the FO to go on patrols. He was a 1LT West Pointer at the time. I think of him everyday after 53 years. Officers say do and sergeants make it happen. He understood that. Another officer I served with made it to MG. He always called me "Top" when we met up again at FORSCOM HQ . He would interrupt his conversation with anyone to say hello to me. when I walked by. MG Meloy, Chief of Staff Operations, FORSCOM at the time. I was NCOIC, Plans Division, DCSOPS. I served with many great officers and NCOs. I retired in 1983 after letting a promotion to SGM pass by.
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