Warrant Officer Rating Scheme

Warrent Officers should be rated by Warrent Officers they know what they do and if it’s being done . Simple

No disrespect to any of the Warrant Officers on here, but, the Army has a crap ton of Warrants!!! I’m medically retired 33 years now and I can only remember having one or two Warrant Officers to a Battalion in the Marine Corps and I even remember 1st and 2nd Lts saying Sir ( mainly respecting their degree of Saltyness!) The “Gunners” walked on water! The enlisted didn’t bother them and the officers went to them for guidance!

We're again ASS BACKWARDS. This is especially prevalent and apparent in the MI Community. We have LT's doing a his 6 month KD, rating a Warrant Officer who does 99% of the work and is held responsible for the execution, yet the LT and the Company commander by and large "sabotage" that success by virtue of understanding so little of the process and advocating for and pushing the "easy wrong" over the "hard right" every time. When the Warrant pushes back, it is considered "Whining" when they inevitable fail after trying to do everything in their power to "Fix Stupid" and "Shine the Turd" it is the Warrants fault because he couldn't make them understand and now "You Warrants need a broadening assignment" so you can "dumb stuff down" so us "lack of professionalization in anything other than politics and Army manuals" can understand Intelligence Disciplines, Procedures and Processes in order to effectively implement our battlefield operating system. I remember when our Intelligence Officers used to professionalize in disciplines and could at least hold a conversation, now they are pretty much down to, and this includes Majors through Colonels in some cases, "I needs me some SIGINT", "What does that MOS do", "All you guys do the same thing" and "You Warrants" Not saying that all Warrants are spectacular, but the O grades and the NCO haters, who have by and large abandoned the BCT's, thrown stones and refusing to even be remotely professionalized in anything other than ARMY and POLITICS is a death sentence to any sympathy or professional empathy for anyone other than other Warrants. Had a lengthy discussion with my counterparts the other day and I'm still connected even though I'm retired, that when you have a PL, doing a 6 month KD, who checks out after 2 months and can't be troubled engage in the ACTUAL MISSION, being directed by a MICO CDR, who probably followed the same process, who is RATED by and ENGINEER LTC, because someone who followed the SAME PROCESS as the KD LT and the MICO Commander, decided that this was a "GOOD FORCE STRUCTURE" because they never did anything but "ARMY and POLITICS" and said "Rgr, Out" is a recipe for and continues to prove a disaster. I realize I've hammered on the O Grades, not all of you fit in this category and I apologize if you feel put upon. You guys need to look to your Marine brethren, their LT PL's, who are under the thumb of the Warrants at the Radio Battalions and other areas where they are forced to PROFESSIONALIZE in things other than MARINE and POLITICS, by and large can RUN CIRCLES around most MAJORS in the Army. LT's and even CPT's rating Warrants is a bad idea, especially when the LT and CPT and more often MAJ's and LTC's don't have a clue of what the Warrant does and how they themselves have screwed the pooch, but now want to lay the dead dog at the Warrants feet. Thus Endeth the Sermon. Its up to the ACTIVE DUTY to FIX IT. Retirement is Nice!

Warrant Officers were referred to as God by everyone when I was in the Army. They were a book of knowledge and someone to go to when you needed an answer. As far as I am concerned, a 2LT doesn't have the credentials to even polish the boots of a Senior NCO, and much less a Warrant Officer. A CW3 to CW5 should be rated by a Field Grade Officer if he is rated as a Field Grade Officer. Actually the CW5 rank, I believe has been changed to MW5, or it was right after I retired.

What does it matter? If you’re a CWO5, you’ve reached the top! You’re the king! The CWO5 makes as much as a a LtCol and nobody messes with a CWO5! Who’s going to even have the balls to try?

Where can you find a CW5 billet where there are 2LTs in the formation to begin with? Frankly, the task org wont even support this eventuality (at least in the walking warrant world).
The lowest officer around in my job is the CG's aide.

What does this picture represent, surely not a WO, that is a QM officer. Also Spence when is a cow 3 equate to a Major . A cow 3 = s a captain in pay grade. Get your facts straight.

I have no credentials to answer this question but I will suggest the following -

W1 - Rater - CW2, CW3, 2LT or higher; Senior - CW3, CW4 , CPT or higher
CW2 - Rater - CW3, CW4, MW5, 1LT or higher; Senior - CW4, CW5, CPT or higher
CW3 - Rater CW4, MW5 , CPT or higher; Senior - MW5, MAJ or higher
CW4 - Rater MW5, MAJ or higher; Senior MAJ or higher
MW5 - Rater LTC or higher; Senior - COL or higher

Bear in mind that, outside of the Aviation community, most WOs serve on battalion or higher staffs and their immediate supervisors are either WOs or at least a CPT.

Sorry to become a warrant you must be E-5 so 4 years at min. Then a 2Lt only has collage time and what maybe a year military. At what grade can you get as an officer in 4 or 5 years. ? I would say an officer at 03 capt should be a rate officer for cw1 maybe cw2. Then major for a cw3 or cw4 a colonel to rate a cw5

Why I always wanted to be and stay in the Chief Petty Officer's mess. Retired as a Senior Chief Petty Officer holding an academic doctorate from a reputable state university. Never had a thought about who I was nor did I have a worry about my qualification. I was an academic "Admiral" and "The Chief" no matter the circumstance or place in which I served.