Posted on Feb 3, 2014
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I've been seeing a lot of posts on Facebook from service members upset that the Army had an elaborate fly over on Superbowl Sunday, saying that it was a waste of funds. In a time where perhaps more than ever the Army and military as a whole are pinching pennies and downsizing, do you think a flyover was appropriate?

 

In my opinion, civilians love seeing our (the military's) high speed equipment and vehicles. As possibly the most watched sporting event of the year, although expensive, a don't think a flyover hurt the Army's budget substantially. I agree that retirement benefits should be the militaries first priority, but for the occasion I don't think a flyover was out of line. Thoughts?

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Another thing that the Facebook bashers may not have considered is the fact that all of those air crews have training requirements that they have to meet in terms of flight hours, night flying, etc.  If the Army can meet training requirements AND get world wide exposure, why not?
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1SG First Sergeant
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Could not agree more sir.
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TSgt Scott Hurley
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That's the same in the AF. Sometimes it fits right on in with a flight requirement. If not, then it has to be something that is planed out months in advance, like an air show.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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Only issue was that it was DARK and no one could see the fly-over.  So yeah, our bubbas got training flight time, but I don't think it met the objective of getting exposure...


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1SG Shane Hansen
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Not to mention mixed airframe multiship flight experience and time on target practice
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It is said that they spent $100,000 to do the flyover. Seems to be one of the cheapest Superbowl commercials if you ask me. If it was $100,000 then I say it was money well spent. The reaction from the attendees was amazing. Just look at all of the cell videos of people in the upper decks. If that flyover made kids, young adults or adults think of the Army then I say mission accomplished.<div><br></div><div>On top of that it is great training for our aviators and one hell of a way to reward them for a job well done. I am in the Aviation Brigade that flew over and there were TONS of pilots and crews hoping to get to participate. I grow tired of the typical Soldiers on the field unfurling the flag or standing on the sideline in uniform - this was one hell of a way to kick it up a notch.</div><div><br></div><div>Plus most people don't understand that the cost to fly up there and partake rested mostly on the units performing the event. Uncle Sam or the Pentagon didn't write a blank check to us. Majority of the money came from our Brigade.</div>
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SFC Senior Small Group Leader (Ssgl)
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Exactly 1SG.  Very proud to see my bird leading the way across that stadium.
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It was as much a recruiting tool as it was an event for the Super Bowl. Job well done!
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Edited 12 y ago

I know down here, where someone requests support they are told they have to foot the bill.  Now, with the flyover, it could have been scheduled into their training calendar and those flight hours were not only for the pilots but for Army Awesomeness purposes.

 

this is just my theory and is in no way respresentative what the actual 5 Ws that went into this.

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SGM Sergeant Major
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You are 100% correct - our Brigade footed the majority of that bill. Well worth it in my eyes.
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Was the Superbowl fly over a waste of funds?
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I don't see an issue with the flyover except that it was a bit difficult to see with it being night time.  My old Troop commander who is now the BN commander for 1/101 AVN was in the lead aircraft for the flyover, and I was very proud to see them out there.  Flyovers are a long standing tradition, and Im glad to see them again.
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SSG McNichol,

Are you speaking about the awesome LTC named Harrington? I got to work for him on rear d and I respect that man a lot.

I do agree the night was an issue but the one video from the upper decks of the birds just materializing was awesome.
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SFC Senior Small Group Leader (Ssgl)
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I am.  He was my troop commander as CPT Harrington with D Trp, 3-6 Cav in Korea, one of the best commanders I have ever worked for.  Him and his wife baked our entire troop cookies and taped them to our doors for Christmas, I miss working for him.


That view was pretty badass actually, we were talking today that it would have been cool if they could have dipped a little bit inside the roof before flying out.

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They have to fly somewhere.  They need hours.
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What some of the people commenting on Facebook may not understand, is that just like any business that paid for air time for commercials during the game, the Army was doing the same thing. Flyovers or other displays at public events such as the Super Bowl are good recruiting opportunities. As you say, the ability to get a view of military personnel and equipment that you simply can't see at your local recruiters office will give a broader perspective to those thinking of joining. Additionally, especially with the current budget situation and a long drawn out conflict, it is important for the populace to see us, and remember that we are still there protecting their freedoms.<br>
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Edited 12 y ago
Im glad to see pretty much everyone saw the logic in the flyover. Its like a live advertisement for the army, and for the spectators something very cool to see. Also I didn't even think about the flight hours thing. Good points.
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Not necessarily a waste of time but using aircraft designed not to be seen at night to do a flyover at night???? Logically it didn't click.
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Honestly I just kind of assumed that the NFL paid the bill for the flyover...
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They didn't, just like the half time performers are not paid either.
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