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State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf has stated that the Middle East needs more job opportunities to remove the threat of groups such as ISIS and that killing them will not beat them.
I both agree and disagree with this statement, where if better opportunities existed within the Middle East there would be less individuals fighting with the terrorists, but at the same time, we must remove ISIS to allow those jobs to even been created.
What do you all think?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/marie-harf-state-department-on-islamic-state-cant-/
I both agree and disagree with this statement, where if better opportunities existed within the Middle East there would be less individuals fighting with the terrorists, but at the same time, we must remove ISIS to allow those jobs to even been created.
What do you all think?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/marie-harf-state-department-on-islamic-state-cant-/
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It is time for a leadership change........ It's better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you might be stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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IMHO both sides of this conversation are wrong. Islam is NOT the problem. The hijacking of Islam by a few nut jobs is. Also as Mr. Matthews points out. Our government cannot even solve the economic problems here. How are they going to do so in a foreign land where their understanding of all the working parts is less than it is here? I have said it before. I believe the solution is to wage the type of all out, no holds barred. Do what needs to be done and to hell with what anyone thinks WAR.The type of thing our leaders have been afraid to do since WWII ended. Not this politically safe, warm and fuzzy , lets have them fight with one hand tied behind their back and forget about them when they come home wounded, or emotionally scarred often times both. Bullshit that we are doing now. Do it right, or back off and leave it to someone else.
My rant for the day thanks for reading.
My rant for the day thanks for reading.
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SGT Steve Oakes
I have read some of the other comments. I agree JUST killing them will not work. But it would be a really good start. It would also be really good motivation for them to take advantage of any alternatives we eventually offer. Face overwhelming odds and certain death or take advantage of this program to help rebuild your country into something great.
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The only way to even come close to killing most of them would include the death of a lot of innocents, which would increase their ranks at least as much it diminished them. You can keep them in hiding, you can severely degrade their capabilities, however they can not be destroyed through force alone.
At some point you need to address the underlying causes, the reasons someone decides to join IS instead of choosing to live a peaceful life raising a family and trying to provide an even better life for their kids. How many are fighting because they have suffered at the hands of Al-Assad the Butcher? How many are fighting because their village was indiscriminately bombed by the Iraqi government? How many are fighting because there is no other work available?
Yes, there are bat shirt crazy extremists that will need to be killed... however if we want to win this struggle against IS, we are also going to have to address underlying causes.
At some point you need to address the underlying causes, the reasons someone decides to join IS instead of choosing to live a peaceful life raising a family and trying to provide an even better life for their kids. How many are fighting because they have suffered at the hands of Al-Assad the Butcher? How many are fighting because their village was indiscriminately bombed by the Iraqi government? How many are fighting because there is no other work available?
Yes, there are bat shirt crazy extremists that will need to be killed... however if we want to win this struggle against IS, we are also going to have to address underlying causes.
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I don't think jobs will help.
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.
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SSG (Join to see)
There is fertile ground in the region for this idea which is the Islamic State and the more blood we shed in the region the more fertile that ground becomes. I have a hard time believing that their ranks are full of "true believers" what percentage of soldiers in the
German Army were Nazi's?
I believe it's important that this conflict be one between IS and the Muslims it considers to be apostates, and that the "Armies of Rome" stay out of it as much as possible.
German Army were Nazi's?
I believe it's important that this conflict be one between IS and the Muslims it considers to be apostates, and that the "Armies of Rome" stay out of it as much as possible.
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How'bout giving them some suicide missions? Offer them a trip to Columbia or el-Salvador, and let the show[down] begin!
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This chick, this entire dept is far down the that rabbit hole.... Perhaps they forgot they need some pixie dust? Oh wait, they already snorted it.... SORRY, SQUIRREL!
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I think Harf needs a 4th Batallion D.I. to wake her up.
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Everyone just sit back and relax, apparently we just aren't smart enough to understand Ms. Harf's point.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/18/state-department-spokeswoman-call-for-using-jobs-to-combat-terror-too-nuanced/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/18/state-department-spokeswoman-call-for-using-jobs-to-combat-terror-too-nuanced/
State Department spokeswoman: Call for using jobs to combat terror ‘too nuanced’ for critics
State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf, after coming under fire for suggesting the way to fight the Islamic State is with more jobs, has an answer for her critics: Her argument is just too nuanced for them to understand.
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I wouldn't say it was too nuanced, I'd say that polemicists are simply exercising some willful ignorance in an attempt to score political points.
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Probably the most asinine thing I've heard today!!
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