Posted on Feb 18, 2015
CPT Zachary Brooks
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State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf has stated that the Middle East needs more job opportunities to remove the threat of groups such as ISIS and that killing them will not beat them.

I both agree and disagree with this statement, where if better opportunities existed within the Middle East there would be less individuals fighting with the terrorists, but at the same time, we must remove ISIS to allow those jobs to even been created.

What do you all think?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/marie-harf-state-department-on-islamic-state-cant-/
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CPT Zachary Brooks
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Dang, I just posted about this. I spent a few minutes trying to find a discussion on it already and it of course popped up right after I posted mine.
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MSG Parachute Rigger
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I agree with the state department. We need more cyanide poison and hydrochloric acid taste testers out there. They seem like a legit bunch of retards for the job. Let's pay them minimum wage. But first, they must chug a gallon of sulfuric acid to ensure they're a proper fit for the program! Lol.
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
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Yep, it's a crazy world. The poor and uneducated of one culture killing-off the poor and uneducated of another culture for the profit of the rich and powerful.
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MSG Parachute Rigger
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This has nothing to do with money! This is one religious group trying to employ their beliefs on the world. They can all die. Whether for money or not. Screw them all. They deserve a slow painful death. Very slow death. If love to be the executioner. I don't care the cost in the end. I'll pay it. I'd gladly be their slow executioner. I'd gladly make them suffer. I've lost too many friends to these retards to believe the Michael Moore bull shit about money and oil. They want a fight. I say we quit pitter patting this and to kill them all. All!
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In all seriousness, these people are primarily motivated by religious ideology, not a lack of employment. The lack of employment and empty promises of Da'esh are exactly what is needed to delegitimize them in the eyes of their followers. The rot will occur from the inside and it will be accelerated when Da'esh can no longer sieze new territory (a requirement of the caliphate according to their own ideology in order to remain legitimate). Killing them is still a victory in their own twisted beliefs. The ideology must be discredited in order to truly defeat them and Da'esh will be their own worse enemy in this case.

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1SG Civil Affairs Specialist
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You might not win by killing them, but it is a good start.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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Sure we beat kill ISIS by killing them. The challenge is that for one you kill a hundred become radicalized. At that rate, its difficult to gain control. However, 1LT William Clardy reminded me that we used carpet bomb regions in WWII. It would be politically unpopular, but it would destroy the pool of personnel that they get their recruits and neutralize ISIS and any other terrorists in the region
Oh course, we won't do that. Nor should we.
It's just a reminder thought that choose to be humanitarian, not that we CANT beat and/or kill anybody or group we want. We have the power and resources
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1LT William Clardy
1LT William Clardy
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Actually, SFC Michael Jackson, MBA, if you ever read the results from the Strategic Bombing Surveys critically, you'll be likely to conclude that our carpet-bombing efforts in Europe were generally ineffective in reducing industrial capacity - and, contrary to Douhet's theoriizing, bombing cities had a stiffening effect on civilian resolve instead of weakening it

For a point of comparison regarding the likelihood that we could kill enough of them, look at how we failed to bomb the Japanese into submission -- our firebombing campaigns were targeting the major Japanese cities, we had the home islands effectively blockaded, and we were still looking at the possibility of a million casualties if we chose to invade instead of starving them into submission.
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
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Some people join the U.S. Military for a job, Right?
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SSG Kevin McCulley
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How about a jobs FROM ISIS program? Create a big prison.. fill it with ISIS members.. have select US supermax inmates act as the guards... then of course we have our guards.. throw the whole damned thing on TV as a reality show!

They can GIVE BACK to society!
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SSG Kevin McCulley
SSG Kevin McCulley
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When inmates get thrown in solitary, they have to listen to foreign policy speeches on infinite loop!

ISIS is not Islamic!
ISIS is not Islamic!
ISIS is not Islamic!
NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!
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SSG Kevin McCulley
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Hangers
EVER!
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Cpl Jeff N.
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The only job I am interested in seeing them do is pig farming in hell.
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1LT Nick Kidwell
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I would suggest range detail at every military qualification range in the US. And I don't mean as range safeties either.
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
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Does anyone have the courage to really ask what these various groups of ISIS really want? Is it a peaceful source of livelihood? The right to be left alone? The right to educate or to be educated? Stop selling weapons to the Middle East? They obviously don't want to be shot at or bombed. So who is deciding that they should be? A negotiator? I work with kids. Sometimes kids misbehave because of a power struggle between them and one of their teachers at the moment. Having two teachers in the classroom we just switch places, remove that power struggle. Change the negotiator. That's not easy for some people who just want to win and always be right. People appear to resort to violence when frustrated, don't have answers or a solution. Let's help them find it
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1LT Nick Kidwell
1LT Nick Kidwell
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay - What they want is that the whole world fall under Sharia Law and that they bring it to the world by force. They are not looking to be understood, they are looking for Sharia compliance and death to those who will not comply.
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
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I had a kid like that in my class. We are seeking mental health resources for him. I hope he gets healed before he grows-up to become an influential person in society.
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