Posted on Mar 26, 2018
Cpl Carlton Corbin
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Im new to RP, I decided to join because my research usually takes me here and I usually find good answers, advice, and info.

I am currently getting ready to go into Army, Active Duty. Either as a 42A or 68G (undecided). I have been out of the Marine Corps for about 2 1/2 years, and I am looking for any advice or tips that any Soldiers or prior service Marines can give. I am currently in school for Business Administration in Irving, Texas, hence the MOS choices, and plan on starting a couple of businesses in the next few years. As far as I know, at the moment, I will be keeping my rank (e-4) and will be eligible for promotion pretty soon after enlisting (based off of information given to my recruiter and other Soldiers). In the Marine Corps, I was a 3381 -- Cook, I've been stationed in Okinawa and 29 Palms and have done field exercises in Okinawa, Korea, Philippines, and 29 Palms (No actual deployments, unfortunately). Outside of the Marine Corps, I lived in Oceanside and played football for my school in San Diego, and recently moved to Dallas, TX.

I am just looking for any advice/tips on AIT, duty stations, life as a soldier, etc. Any information that you all can offer will be greatly appreciated.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Prior Marines generally either do exceptionally well, or exceptionally poor. The best thing you can do is immediately remove any chips that remain on your shoulders, forget all of the Marines "we're better than everyone" brainwashing nonsense, and get ready to adapt to your new environment. Listen a lot. Learn a lot. Talk very little. At least at first.
Start reading Army Regulations. Start with uniforms, awards, customs and courtesies, NCO guides, etc...
It's gonna take you time to get your records straight, so be prepared to be patient. Most S1's aren't used to prior Marines, so you getting your awards, military education, NCOES, etc... straight will be an adventure. Stay patient.
Don't rush towards promotion because you think all of your Marine experience makes you ready to be an Army NCO. It doesn't. Before you rush to the board, make sure you truly understand Army basics, counseling, awards, evaluations, promotions, your MOS, service and programs, uniforms, leaves and passes, all those thousands of things NCO's are expected to know. Remember, it's better to be a high speed E4 than a POS E5. Make sure you're ready to be an Army NCO.
This might seem negative in tone. It's not. I made the same transition and it was the best thing I ever did. In the Army, you'll have a better quality of life, better programs, more education, more training, more varied responsibilities and assignments, more diverse bases and units, and a real opportunity to shine. But remember, you joined the Army. You must adapt. If you don't succeed, the Army will replace you faster than you can walk out the door. Make sure you set yourself up for success. Find another prior Marine, preferably a Senior NCO or Officer for mentorship, guidance and advice. They'll understand the transition. Don't latch on to a junior prior Marine. It remains to be seen whether they'll sink or float.
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Cpl Carlton Corbin
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Much appreciated. I will definitely be taking this advice. Thank you!
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SFC Mpd Ncoic
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And to caveat about your records....MAKE COPIES OF EVERYTHING!!! There are courses that have equivalence between branches, that can be added to your Army records. Awards, definitely. I would suggest an "I love me" book, which should have all of your documents within. This will help the S1 clerk when it comes to making sure your records are as up to date as possible.....COPIES COPIES AND MORE COPIES!!!! Oan, i am still going to email you; i have not forgot
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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And digital copies of your I love me book!
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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SFC Michael Hasbun -This is damn good advice for every soldier. I found that just on the Army side of things that Reserve, National Guard and Active Duty personnel systems don't always talk to each other correctly and it saves a lot of time if you have all your paperwork.
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I liked working with former Marines. They were always more even keeled and reserved with their emotional reactions. They got their tasks done without griping, and almost all of them kept Soldiers motivated without blowing up.
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SSG (Join to see) Great response!
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SFC Robert Walton
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Prepare to slow down (so to speak). I have worked with the Marines during my time in and most of the time they seem to be to perfect, that being said never loose what you learned in the Marines use it to your best advantage. You have already learned basic Soldiering skills so now you have to learn how to use them to your advantage. PT is going to be one of the big Little things Exercise are different but produce the same results, Put on your learning head gear everyone you meet is someone to learn from. Now watch those Junior Soldiers that want to help to much most have different idea's of what works the best. Stick with your Staff NCO's and never be afraid to ask a question. Marines Find the Army a little lax, I guess is what I am trying to say so use your High speed low Drag energy and learning traits to enhance your Career. Give yourself plenty of time to learn before worrying about Promotion. Never discard what you learned in the Marines just put it in a different folder so you can pull it out for use later. Good Luck and welcome to the Army.
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Cpl Carlton Corbin
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Thank you very much! I'll be keeping this in mind!
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SGT(P) Khalid Wise
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SFC Robert Walton, very well said. Exactly the same advisement as a former Marine CPL to newly promoted SGT that I received from one of my first LRS SFC interaction while my MI Unit was MOB/DEP 2003-2004 OIF and OEF!! Thank you for always encouraging to continue excellence but by learning the Army ways.
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What advice do you have for a prior-service Marine entering the Army?
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The following are some cultural faux pas I've observed committed by former Marines who joined the Army:
1. The statement "Well, in the Corps we did it like this ..."
~ You are more than welcome to continue doing it that way in the Corps or submit through channels a request to change SOP, policy, regulation, etc. This is like telling your current spouse/girlfriend how much better your ex-spouse/girlfriend in the sack. Yes, I agree the USMC's shooting regimen and PT and definitely, uniforms are so much better than the Army's but, don't tell your current spouse/girlfriend how great your ex kept herself in such great shape.

2. The statement "The Corps is so much better than the Army because ..."
~ Along similar vein as above but this is an overarching sentiment stating how your ex-spouse/girlfriend is better overall than your current spouse/girlfriend.

3. Understand the Army has four titles for NCOs:
~~ Corporal - Self-explanatory.
~~ Sergeants - Refer to all sergeants, staff sergeants, sergeants first class and master sergeants as "Sergeant". Also, when you get promoted to SSG, SFC or MSG, don't get tweaked out because someone called you Sergeant.
~~ First Sergeant - Self-explanatory.
~~ Sergeant Major - Refer to Sergeants Major and Command Sergeants Major as "Sergeant Major"

4. We capitalize all our abbreviations for our ranks and keep it to three characters:
PV1 ... SPC/CPL ... SFC
PV2 ... SGT ... MSG/1SG
PFC ... SSG ... SGM/CSM/SMA

5. D&C -
~~ We have "Rear MARCH" not "To The Rear, MARCH"
~~ Left as in Left Face, has one syllable so try to limit the LEY-YEFTs .

6. Calling cadence. By far the most humorous to me is listening to a former Marine calling cadence in a gravelly muffled voice that many in formation did not understand. That said, God bless him for trying.

You will always be a Marine but as the saying goes, "When in Rome do as the Romans"
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Cpl Carlton Corbin
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Lol, thank you! I will keep these things in mind. I catch myself now, in school, referring back to the Marine Corps, but I'm sure I will be able to get over that going into the Army. I appreciate it!
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1SG John Millan - I can appreciate the "Gunny" title. I've never heard it uttered without the utmost respect.
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I was an enlisted Marine (3381) prior to commissioning in the army. There are pros and cons to each branch. I'll list a few but feel free to message me if you have specific questions.

Army Pros: Better equipment and better facilities leads to better training. The Army has more opportunities to go to schools and tryout for things like SF if you were so inclined. More Army bases means you can be stationed anywhere in the country or the world. Whereas with the Marines you're basically limited to east coast, west coast, and Okinawa (with a few other exceptions).

Army cons: Once you get outside of the Infantry (and probably Combat Arms in general) in the Army, esprit de corps and discipline take a plunge downward as compared to the Marines. As you know, in the Marines everyone is held to the same high standard. The Army is not that way. People can argue that but I've been on both sides and that's just the way it is. That's not to say that the soldiers in those areas aren't great at what they do, you will just notice a lack of intensity that's found in the Corps. Soldiers in the Army, while proud, will not have the same level of pride as Marines. I just came from an Army school and at the graduation, not everyone knew all the words to the Army song. This would NEVER happen in the Marines. And if it did, that guy better watch out.

Overall though, I've enjoyed my time in the Army more than the Marines. Maybe it's personality or something else. I've just found that it fit me better.
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Cpl Carlton Corbin
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You're not the first to say these things, so I'm more inclined to believe that its not just you. I've already been trying to prepare myself for that mentally, but after being a civilian again for the last couple of years, I think it won't be too much of a culture shock. I really appreciate the insight though, and if I consider becoming a officer, I will definitely be reaching out to you.
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SFC Hasbun hit it right on point!! Your Army Regulations will definitely help with your transition. As far as careers, I’m a 42A and I LOVE my job!! It is very rewarding and offers a lot of opportunities to receive additional training throughout your career as well as awesome assignments. It’s very easy to network in the 42A arena because with work with all MOSs. As far as promotions, there is still a required time in service to meet when you come in. Although you’re prior service, there is still a time in grade requirement you have to meet. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors and keep it touch if you ever have questions.
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Will do, thank you very much!
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I'd say 42, but i am biased
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Cpl Carlton Corbin
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Care to elaborate?
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SFC Mpd Ncoic
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Shoot me an email and I'd be glad to...im typing this on my cell...but yeah, message me your email and i will elaborate as much as i can...promise!!
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Cpl Carlton Corbin
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Gotcha. About to send it now. Thank you!
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Tried to send a message but your name wouldn't come up as a recipient. My email is [login to see]
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Oorah Brother! I'm prior service Marine as well. I have 2 years in the Army so far. I got out Honorably and joined the Army 7 years later. Being prior service I was told I wouldn't have choices like when I first joined the Marines. I was only given one option and it was a take it or leave it, because I was prior service. I kept my Cpl rank when I joined. I ended up joining the Army Reserves, because at that time only prior service Special Ops or prior service with a GT score of 110 or more could go active duty. They told me there was no waiver for my GT score of 107... like I said, it was take it or leave it... I signed and took my oath on a Saturday and then on Monday I reported to my new unit. Yes, on the Momday of that same weekend... It took my unit about 4 to 5 months to get my service uniforms. I've been in for 2 years and I still have yet to get my dress uniform... I was sent to my mos school, but instead of it being 13 weeks like a new Soldier, it was a 4 weeks crash course with an exam every week. It took me a year and a half to get promoted to Sgt. You're going to have to complete SSD1 (online modules) and complete Basic Leadership Course (BLC) before you can get promoted to SGT. A lot of the Marine Corps things wont transfer over, except for your medals. I can't wear a deployment patch on my uniform, because I want deployed while in the Army. Even though a did a tour to Iraq in the Marines. (And yes, I looked up the regulations). I am now awaiting Active Guard Reserve orders. (It's like active duty, but better). My original intention was to go Active, but my recruiter failed to mention the requirements for prior service trying to go active (ie. prior service special ops or GT score of 110 or higher)... The Army, from what I have experienced in the past 2 years, is way more laxed, than the Corps. There are times, when I get sick to my stomach because of the level of laxed discipline I've seen.. And unlike the Corps., Soldiers will get their feelings hurt when you yell at them, lmao. There are very few that have thick skin. The only one that understands the way I think, is a brother who was prior Army Infantry, before he changed MOS and joined my Army Reserves unit. Besides that, I wasn't sent to refresher course to learn about the Army Ways, like my recruiter said I would. I've had to learn by reading regulations and asking questions and going to BLC. There are still many things I dont kmow. As a Marine hold on to that pride that was instilled into us. But keep an open mind and keep yourself calm. Listen and learn. Marines always adapt and overcome. So you will do fine. PLEASE, dont start stuffing your cover into your trouser pockets! (You'll see...lmao..) It's going to difinetley be different, but you're already one step ahead, compared to those Soldiers that have been in 4 years or less. There are many things Soldiers dont learn that all Marines are expected to know. Just don't get carried away. Continue to learn and be more patient than you are as a Marine. Learn the Army ways and don't get too lax. You'll do just fine. Good luck!!
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Additionally the NG is offering a bonus of 50k paying into college for OCS which is a huge bonus for me...
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Cpl Carlton Corbin
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I've thought about waiting until I finish school and becoming an officer but at that point, I feel like I'd already be where I want as a civilian so going would be counter productive. Depending on how this enlistment goes, i'll be able to better determine if being an officer is a good idea. Best of luck to you with it!
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Sgt Adrian Jones
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if you have 90 credits you can start the process of becoming an officer, I have 122 credit and a year left of school. I decided to do the in state traditional OCS if I'm not mistaken. it's worth it ...check it out ...
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Cpl Carlton Corbin
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Gotcha, I will look into it.
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I made the switch to the Army Reserves and have no complaints. Don't really over think it to much the Army is still the military and most of what you know holds true. The Army has some great NCO's find some in your unit and learn all you can.

Read over AR 670-1 and go check out some youtube videos of army PRT. Practice the sit ups they are harder then you think. You can check out some Army DNC videos as well. The Army does things a little different then you will be used to.

Good luck on your studies, completing your degree will give you a jump on higher Enlisted promotions, and will open doors for you as well for Warrant Officer and Officer positions as well.
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Cpl Carlton Corbin
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Will do, thank you very much!
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