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I have chosen a program through Trident University, Just looking for some advice on how to Juggle family, work, military, and now School again. I just completed my Masters however I feel way more time will be needed to be focused on school this time around. I am also looking for others experience and avice that may have went through a similar program.
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SPC David S.
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I think the biggest thing to look at is the time to degree -more work means more time needed. For education related PhD's (the longest in time to degree) is 11.8 years. While that time includes graduate school I'd look at ways to decrease the time to degree as that time equates to an opportunity cost. While you're still in school mode try to get'er done. Good luck in you educational pursuits.

https://mlaresearch.commons.mla.org/2014/05/14/opportunity-costs-of-the-phd-the-problem-of-time-to-degree/
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CW4 Scott Hyde
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Hang in there. Find something you enjoy for your research and dissertation. It will keep you focused. A good dissertation committee with a strong chair will keep you on track. Get to know them well. If you feel the team is not right, change it.
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CSM William DeWolf
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Drexel University has an excellent online accredited doctoral program. Good Luck!
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CSM DeWolf
I have already chosen a program with Trident University, but thank you. I am just wondering how other people have done it with work, family, and military responsibilities.

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What advice do you have for someone entering into a Doctor of Philosophy in Educational Leadership program?
LTC Kevin B.
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Here's a good place to start.

http://www.gradschools.com/doctorate/education-leadership-administration

I'd look for the best universities that have that programs, and then see where their faculty went to school. That can help you find the most reputable programs.
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SSG (Join to see) - Okay then. You might want to rephrase the question in a way that focuses other RP members on the topic of "getting starting in a program". As it reads, your intention is kind of vague. If you have an idea of how (if) you want to adjust it, I can make that change for you.
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Sir,
I have rephrased the question and added a bit of a description. Hopefully that mitigates any confusion. Sorry about that Sir.

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SSG (Join to see) - No problem. Just trying to more quickly help you get the advice you're seeking. I tweaked the main question for you as well.

Regarding your starting into a program, I'd recommend pulling out and refreshing every single time management skill that you have ever developed. It will be a challenge juggling all of those balls. At least I had the luxury of the military sending me off to school for my PhD. So, school was my full-time job. Make sure to pace yourself. The PhD process is a very long and grinding path. View this as a journey ("learning"), rather than being a destination ("a credential"). I'd also recommend trying to narrow down your focus as early as possible in the process. That will help you get a head start on the dissertation. Their concentrations can help you narrow the focus somewhat, but you'll need even more focus for when you start into your dissertation stage. Looking at the research interests of Educational Leadership faculty at other institutions can be helpful. Keeping up with the current research in the academic journals is also helpful. With an early start on narrowing down your dissertation ideas, you can actually have quite a bit of the dissertation stage knocked out before you even start into it (e.g. knowledge of previous research, availability of data, current hot-button topics, potential dissertation committee members to target, etc.).

Best of luck to you.
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Sir,
Thank you that helps out a lot. I've got an Idea of what I want my dissertation to be. I want to look into the educational and study habits of previous generations compared to the present generation. It has seemed through my experience that our current generation can not learn, nor retain, the way that the generations before us could. My academic advisor that I have had contact with thought it was a great topic, but she will also not be the one on the board from what she tells me.

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Capt Daniel Goodman
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And I saw you said you'd finished your masters, so, as I'd said, elaborate in depth on that, your bachelors, any associates, etc, so far as you can, OK?
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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http://www.ocsfoundation.org

You might find this useful, esp for the forum pages, it's not all-inclusive, it doesn't include Army WOCS or any of the direct commission indoc OIS type programs, however, it does cover the five main OCS programs in considerable depth....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=army%20nco%20finishes%20phd%20at%20afit&s_it=loki-tb-sb

Look at these as well, you'll find more references to the whole enlisted/NCO thing at AFIT on here, I'm unsure if these are about the USAF or Army NCO, you'd need to look through them, trust me, I definitely did see them....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL6UEvY9W2I

I also stumbled across this one, though it's apparently unrelated to those I'd already mentioned, you might care to ask about whether you might be able to submit for this, I don't have a clue if Army can go for it, however, you've got nothing to lose be at least just asking, you know?
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